Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Let Standford go to D3. Since they think of themselves as an Ivy League school, they can go play at that level with them.
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Let Standford go to D3. Since they think of themselves as an Ivy League school, they can go play at that level with them.
I see them going WCC but independent in football. OSU and WSU to Mountain West. Cal I have no guess which way they'd go.
 
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My main point is Iowa by every measure is ahead of approximately half of the B10 teams. Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue and Indiana would most certainly be the first ones cut out. If they are going to move to one super conference of say 24 teams, I’d then be worried. I don’t think they’d ever pare it down that far because Goliath still needs plenty of David’s.

Purdue and Indiana bring the Indianapolis market which is a flagship Big 10 city.
 
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Some interesting (maybe BS) stuff from a guy who appears to be plugged in with the B1G. The whole thread here is interesting.



This would suggest that those are the four top TV brands remaining in the Pac-12. If Notre Dame goes B1G, the idea is apparently that Oregon will go with them; if not, there is a chance that Oregon and Washington both get in.

But as relevant to the B12, both of those schools plus Utah and ASU would be good additions to the Big 12 from FOX’s perspective.

Jon Wilner had some skepticism earlier that might have been more about Arizona and Colorado. If the B1G takes Oregon and ND, we should obviously take Washington, Utah, and ASU, but I think it would be an interesting question whether we take 1 or 3 of Arizona, Colorado, Cal, and Stanford after that. Personally I think it would be 3, we’d go to 18, and one of the Bay Area schools would be left out. But it would be funny to exclude Colorado.


I don't know if I buy that Utah number, but regardless, what vison of Warren would be having two schools on an island?

I just don't see how at least UW and Oregon are not added. And although academics don't matter, the BIG presidents would sign off their revenue lead being smaller for Stanford and Berkeley being Big 10 brands imo. I think they override the networks and go with at least 6, the blue bloods of the Pac 12. This also best preserves Rose Bowl value imo.
 
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I don't know if I buy that Utah number, but regardless, what vison of Warren would be having two schools on an island?

I just don't see how at least UW and Oregon are not added. And although academics don't matter, the BIG presidents would sign off their revenue lead being smaller for Stanford and Berkeley being Big 10 brands imo. I think they override the networks and go with at least 6, the blue bloods of the Pac 12. This also best preserves Rose Bowl value imo.

I don't think any decision has been made in realignment, pretty much ever but at least in the modern era, without money as the primary factor. Especially by the B1G. So if Cal and Stanford cannot pay their way (which they cannot), they aren't B1G worthy. And it sounds as though Washington is borderline as best on the money front.

If I had to predict:
Notre Dame turns down the B1G knowing that they will have a spot when the ACC gets cracked open. There's no rush right now.

The B1G takes Oregon and Washington and stops at 18 for now.

The Big 12 takes six of the remaining Pac-12 schools - Stanford, Cal, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State. Washington State and Oregon State go G5. Big 12 is also at 18.

The SEC waits to respond for when it can crack the ACC open, since there's no one on the table who adds to its cash either. They sit at 16.

Going further (totally guessing):
Whenever the ACC does get cracked open, the B1G adds Notre Dame, Virginia, North Carolina, and Duke.

The SEC adds Florida State, Clemson, NC State, and Virginia Tech. I'll guess that they also add Miami and one more (which could be from the Big 12 by this point), but I could definitely see them only adding one Florida school.

The Big 12 adds Pitt, Louisville, Georgia Tech, and Syracuse. Wake Forest and Boston College get G5 demotions.

All three conferences would have about 22 schools at this point. This sure feels like the end game of this stage to me. The next stage is whenever the Haves of the B1G and SEC decide to separate from the Have Nots within their own conferences.
 

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If this rumor is true, Washington and Oregon to the Big 10 is just a matter of time, which means Arizona, ASU, Utah, and Colorado all see the writing on the wall - and Stanford and Cal either are also going to the Big 10 or nobody wants to deal with their insanity anymore.
I honestly think as much as I'd love them, there's zero stability incentive to add Washington and Oregon because they'd bolt in a second.
Want in? Sure. Your buyout will be very, very large.
 

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If this rumor is true, Washington and Oregon to the Big 10 is just a matter of time, which means Arizona, ASU, Utah, and Colorado all see the writing on the wall - and Stanford and Cal either are also going to the Big 10 or nobody wants to deal with their insanity anymore.

Maybe Stanford and Cal are hoping the B1G will take them for the academic vibes and when that doesn't happen and they don't have a conference anymore, they'll come to the Big 12. I think that I would take them to go to 18 if we already had 16. But I could be persuaded either way. That would be a good decision for Yormark and crew to have to make.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I honestly think as much as I'd love them, there's zero stability incentive to add Washington and Oregon because they'd bolt in a second.
Want in? Sure. Your buyout will be very, very large.
I go back and forth. If you can hold them for 10 years at least and use them to help build the XII brand more, then maybe mess with them, but it’s a bad look to have them and then have them bolt.
 
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Revenue projections

those numbers are way off, they were outdated almost as soon as that tweet went out.

Pac paid out half as much as projected, this year at only 19.8M and Big 12 paid out a record 43.2M, more. than projected.

But that projection basically puts the PAC, ACC, and Big 12 even as they stood moving ahead as it stood a few months ago. Moving ahead which was without Texas and OU, and with the 4 new schools, but included USC and UCLA in the PAC.

This proves that the PAC is way behind the Big 12 now that they lost their 2 biggest names. We were even after we added the 4 teams after OUT, but now that the PAC is minus its bread winners they are not even close.
 

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Nice to see ISU on there. If the ACC is off limits, then we have a realistic shot at getting into a 20-team Big 10 or a 20-team SEC. It's probably more realistic that they stand pat at 16 or 18 teams for the next 10 years.
Iowa State has zero percent chance at the SEC and a tenth of a percent at the B1G.
The idea that the SEC would take ISU is laughable.

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