Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

98% of the population wouldn't even realize the difference.

Only idiots like us that live in the bubble care about this stuff.
They do start caring if academics are cut like at UW or student fees go up like at Minnesota. It drew the attention of the President. I could see it being proposed in Washington and Oregon.
 
98% of the population wouldn't even realize the difference.

Only idiots like us that live in the bubble care about this stuff.
Our state representative was called an idiot on twitter by u of I professor during covid so he has been itching to go after them nor is he afraid to. I wouldn’t put it past him to propose sharing of media rights. He might not, but it would be fun to see him do that and watch Beth go ballistic.
 
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Again.

Why do you think so little of Iowa State that you are constantly comparing it to the two historically worst power league teams?

Why would the Big Ten/SEC want any part of this when they're going to double up regardless of legislation?
Yeah, you still don't have a flippin clue regarding the negative impacts to ISU and 25-30 other P4 schools if additional brand consolidation is permitted by the SEC and B10. But then again, you don't care.

And the B10/SEC sure as hell aren't going to double their revenues if ESPN/Fox get their way with PCSA not passing.
 
Yeah, you still don't have a flippin clue regarding the negative impacts to ISU and 25-30 other P4 schools if additional brand consolidation is permitted by the SEC and B10. But then again, you don't care.

And the B10/SEC sure as hell aren't going to double their revenues if ESPN/Fox get their way with PCSA not passing.
1) You didn't answer the question and went personal. That's how I know you're winning the argument.

2) I'll take your word for it over every other reputable industry writer.
 
If the PCSA passes, the urgency for breakaway will be ramped up and the moves will be announced before the law can take effect. The power players will do their damnedest beat the posse out of town.
The bill will take effect upon enactment (passage and Pres signature). - not delayed. Passage will be tough but there won’t be any “beating the clock” once it passes.
 
1) You didn't answer the question and went personal. That's how I know you're winning the argument.

2) I'll take your word for it over every other reputable industry writer.
1) BS, I lumped in 25-30 schools (including ISU) with Wazzu and Oregon St (who btw weren't the worst P4 programs)

2) Show me a recent link from a reputable industry writer who is projecting B10/SEC doubling their revenues without pooling and without somehow removing ESPN and Fox as their sole media rights holders.
 
1) BS, I lumped in 25-30 schools (including ISU) with Wazzu and Oregon St (who btw weren't the worst P4 programs)

2) Show me a recent link from a reputable industry writer who is projecting B10/SEC doubling their revenues without pooling and without somehow removing ESPN and Fox as their sole media rights holders.
1) From a value standpoint, they absolutely were.

2) https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-sec-congress-fbs-broadcasting-rights/

The two power conferences counter that media growth is already occurring under the current conference-based model. Recent conference renewals led to a 2.8-fold increase in average annual value, matching the NBA's most recent media cycle. The memo states that college football media revenue is projected to surpass SCS's forecast by 2033 without pooling rights or federal oversight.

The paper challenges SCS's assertion that the NBA's recent windfall proves aggregation creates value. It argues the league's gains stemmed from market competition and the sale of smaller packages to multiple distributors. Roughly 80% of NBA games are still sold through local agreements rather than a single consolidated package.

The Big Ten/SEC memo is no more or less valid than Cody Campbell pulling that number out of his study. Live sports are the only thing keeping these media companies afloat and they're going to have to pony up for the NFL and College Sports to keep the lights on.

It's all conjecture, from both sides, until the market bears it out when we hit negotiations in the next 18 or so months and the presidents and chancellors aren't going to simply settle for less because that's what ESPN and/or FOX tell them to do. The networks work for the presidents/chancellors in this situation, not the other way around. If there was a better deal to be had, the presidents/chancellors would dump them faster than a hiccup.
 
1) From a value standpoint, they absolutely were.

2) https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-sec-congress-fbs-broadcasting-rights/



The Big Ten/SEC memo is no more or less valid than Cody Campbell pulling that number out of his study. Live sports are the only thing keeping these media companies afloat and they're going to have to pony up for the NFL and College Sports to keep the lights on.

It's all conjecture, from both sides, until the market bears it out when we hit negotiations in the next 18 or so months and the presidents and chancellors aren't going to simply settle for less because that's what ESPN and/or FOX tell them to do. The networks work for the presidents/chancellors in this situation, not the other way around. If there was a better deal to be had, the presidents/chancellors would dump them faster than a hiccup.
LOL, it wasn’t a Campbell study. There have have multiple independent studies completed that concluded doubling/tripling FBS revenues with pooling. A network exec testified to the Senate Commerce Committee stating likewise.

As mentioned several times already, there is no reason on ESPN’s and Fox’s end to double revenues without pooling as long as they continue their rights stranglehold on both conferences. It’s why they are puppeteering their conferences to block PCSA passage.
 
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LOL, it wasn’t a Campbell study. There have have multiple independent studies completed that concluded doubling/tripling FBS revenues with pooling. A network exec testified to the Senate Commerce Committee stating likewise.

As mentioned several times already, there is no reason on ESPN’s and Fox’s end to double revenues without pooling as long as they continue their rights stranglehold on both conferences. It’s why they are puppeteering their conferences to block PCSA passage.

Highly doubt any INDEPENDENT STUDIES have occurred. Someone is paying for the study and the group/person paying for the study has an agenda. I've seen different consultants quoted, but again they have an agenda to drum up business for their consulting business. They might be the consultants that former Pac 12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff hired when the Pac 12 media rights went out to bid.

Who is the network exec that testified to Congress? I am VERY skeptical that any Network Executive whose company has previously or plans to bid on college sport media rights is going to tell Congress they are willing to pay 2-3x more than the existing rights amounts. That executive would be considered the WORST negotiator in corporate America.

Plus, how can that Network Executive speak with certainty on media rights deals that don't renew until 2031 (Big 10), 2032 (Big 12), 2034 (SEC) and 2036 (ACC). The advertising market could change significantly in 4+ years. And I bet the Big 12 and Pac 12 would loved to know where this Network Exec with the DEEP POCKETS was back in 2023!!!
 
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Highly doubt any INDEPENDENT STUDIES have occurred. Someone is paying for the study and the group/person paying for the study has an agenda. I've seen different consultants quoted, but again they have an agenda to drum up business for their consulting business. They might be the consultants that former Pac 12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff hired when the Pac 12 media rights went out to bid.

Who is the network exec that testified to Congress? I am VERY skeptical that any Network Executive whose company has previously or plans to bid on college sport media rights is going to tell Congress they are willing to pay 2-3x more than the existing rights amounts. That executive would be considered the WORST negotiator in corporate America.

Plus, how can that Network Executive speak with certainty on media rights deals that don't renew until 2031 (Big 10), 2032 (Big 12), 2034 (SEC) and 2036 (ACC). The advertising market could change significantly in 4+ years. And I bet the Big 12 and Pac 12 would loved to know where this Network Exec with the DEEP POCKETS was back in 2023!!!
Will clarify what I posted before, Pete Bevacqua (current ND AD and former NBC exec) and Nick Kahn both testified to the benefits of pooling. Kahn is the President of WWE and is a member of TKO's board of directors but previously had done work on behalf the SEC and others in the media rights space.

And as you are well aware, when you just one bidder (ESPN) for the 2nd most valuable/watch US sports property (CFP), you have a completely effed up system that is for the sole benefit of ESPN and Fox and badly needs to be overhauled for the obvious benefit of all FBS schools.

I had posted this previously: