Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

If the SEC and Big 10 have their way, it will, in absolutely no hyperbolic sense, irreparably harm and potentially even destroy the local economies of at least 50-60 college towns.

Just so they can have more when they're already on top.
 
It's not? You think half the MLB has any kind of chance of even making the playoffs much less winning a World Series? Hell many of them operate at a loss most years while the Yankees are valued at $9 billion.

And yeah this idiot Iowa fan fully realizes that with the current model in college sports my team has zero chance of ever making a B1G title game or a CFP title game regardless of our blessed position in a P2 or what our media deal revenues are. I'm just capable of accepting the reality of where the world is and laughing at those who think any of it is actually going to change. Sorry if that chafes you down there.
Agree 100%.

Big10 & SEC are no different than Yankees, Dodgers, etc. The Yankees would be OUTRAGED if Congress pushed for Yankees to share YES revenue with other major league teams like Twins, Royals, Marlins, Rays, etc, etc, etc, etc.
 
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It's not? You think half the MLB has any kind of chance of even making the playoffs much less winning a World Series? Hell many of them operate at a loss most years while the Yankees are valued at $9 billion.
Fans like to think their favorite team is in a balls to the wall contest to win. In reality, pro sports (and increasingly college sports) are a business. The objective is to get butts in the seats in a cost-effective manner. Some leagues have a salary floor. There are structures in pro leagues to maintain some amount of competitive balance. All teams are on the same TV contract. There are player drafts, contracts and trading rules. If college sports are going to be professional, there needs to be some structure. That's the only way it will work, especially long term.
 
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If the SEC and Big 10 have their way, it will, in absolutely no hyperbolic sense, irreparably harm and potentially even destroy the local economies of at least 50-60 college towns.

Just so they can have more when they're already on top.
It will not.

Legacy Big 12 members haven't had any noticeable change in attendance as membership has changed except for Oklahoma State and that has nothing to do with who they're playing.
 
Big10 & SEC are no different than Yankees, Dodgers, etc. The Yankees would be OUTRAGED if Congress pushed for Yankees to share YES revenue with other major league teams like Twins, Royals, Marlins, Rays, etc, etc, etc, etc.
The Yankees still are limited in their player acquisitions by the draft and luxury tax on salaries. There's increased talk of a salary cap. Baseball is about the only pro sport without a cap.
 
Agree 100%.

Big10 & SEC are no different than Yankees, Dodgers, etc. The Yankees would be OUTRAGED if Congress pushed for Yankees to share YES revenue with other major league teams like Twins, Royals, Marlins, Rays, etc, etc, etc, etc.
You might want to check MLB history before you put words into the mouth of the Yankees.
 
It will not.

Legacy Big 12 members haven't had any noticeable change in attendance as membership has changed except for Oklahoma State and that has nothing to do with who they're playing.

A material difference between OUT situation and separation of a top 48ish, even if just informal

There’s really no comparable precedent, with WSU/Oregon St the closest, but too soon for full impact

Some parallels to professional franchises leaving, but those occur in much bigger/robust economies
 
It's not? You think half the MLB has any kind of chance of even making the playoffs much less winning a World Series? Hell many of them operate at a loss most years while the Yankees are valued at $9 billion.

And yeah this idiot Iowa fan fully realizes that with the current model in college sports my team has zero chance of ever making a B1G title game or a CFP title game regardless of our blessed position in a P2 or what our media deal revenues are. I'm just capable of accepting the reality of where the world is and laughing at those who think any of it is actually going to change. Sorry if that chafes you down there.
Again, how much of the ncaa problem has Levine contributed to? Zero

In no world is Levine helping author solutions to this more ironic than the P2
 
A material difference between OUT situation and separation of a top 48ish, even if just informal

There’s really no comparable precedent, with WSU/Oregon St the closest, but too soon for full impact

Some parallels to professional franchises leaving, but those occur in much bigger/robust economies
Wazzu and Oregon State attendance went UP. Fans are more engaged when their teams are playing peers in competitive games.
 
Again, how much of the ncaa problem has Levine contributed to? Zero

In no world is Levine helping author solutions to this more ironic than the P2
The P2 isn't authoring solutions for the unfair competitive model in college sports. They like it unfair and want to keep it unfair. No irony there.

Levine has taken advantage of an unfair competitive model in MLB without ever moving to change it, but is now working to change the unfair competitive model in college sports. Lots of irony there.
 
It will not.

Legacy Big 12 members haven't had any noticeable change in attendance as membership has changed except for Oklahoma State and that has nothing to do with who they're playing.
lol delusion is a powerful drug! So in your way of thinking Wazzu and Oregon State have had no economic impact from the Pac 12 being decimated and being restructured, diminishing their media rights from $30 mil to $10-$13 mil annually? Media in eastern Washington have reported that the collapse of the former Pac-12 in 2023 has since diminished football attendance, affecting the hospitality and restaurant industry in the region and pushing businesses to the brink in Pullman. Enrollment has dropped from 28k to 22k. With every waking day the B1G and $EC are trying to box out more and more teams not listed in their club. They make all the coin so they cut off up an coming schools at the knees (JMU, NDSU, Boise State, USF). If it's not skewing the CFP toward their favor, it's the no cap rules for NIL. Major college sports affect the whole ecosystem of a community and state.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/st...enue-cratered-realignment-exodus/90111573007/
 
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The P2 isn't authoring solutions for the unfair competitive model in college sports. They like it unfair and want to keep it unfair. No irony there.

Levine has taken advantage of an unfair competitive model in MLB without ever moving to change it, but is now working to change the unfair competitive model in college sports. Lots of irony there.
Correction, they created the unfair model, they and their TV partners. Most Iowa State fans think it’s despicable.
 
lol delusion is a powerful drug! So in your way of thinking Wazzu and Oregon State have had no economic impact from the Pac 12 being decimated and being restructured, diminishing their media rights from $30 mil to $10-$13 mil annually? Media in eastern Washington have reported that the collapse of the former Pac-12 in 2023 has since diminished football attendance, affecting the hospitality and restaurant industry in the region and pushing businesses to the brink in Pullman. Enrollment has dropped from 28k to 22k. With every waking day the B1G and $EC are trying to box out more and more teams not listed in their club. They make all the coin so they cut off up an coming schools at the knees (JMU, NDSU, Boise State, USF). If it's not skewing the CFP toward their favor, it's the no cap rules for NIL. Major college sports affect the whole ecosystem of a community and state.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/st...enue-cratered-realignment-exodus/90111573007/
Oregon State had averaged 30-35,000 since 2014 and averaged right at 30,000 this year

Wazzu had averaged 24-30,000 since Mike Leach left and averaged 26,500 this year.

All from Gemini.
 
It will not.

Legacy Big 12 members haven't had any noticeable change in attendance as membership has changed except for Oklahoma State and that has nothing to do with who they're playing.
I'm talking about breaking away and creating a separate division that excludes a bunch of programs that have always played at the highest level.

I'd have to imagine there are a lot of businesses in Corvallis, OR and Pullman, WA that would view it differently than you.
 
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Oregon State had averaged 30-35,000 since 2014 and averaged right at 30,000 this year

Wazzu had averaged 24-30,000 since Mike Leach left and averaged 26,500 this year.

All from Gemini attendance numbers from 2012-2023 that clearly show regionality and who you play matter. They were in the upper 28-30k. The last year of the PAC 12 as a power conference they averaged 28k. Since then

Oregon State had averaged 30-35,000 since 2014 and averaged right at 30,000 this year

Wazzu had averaged 24-30,000 since Mike Leach left and averaged 26,500 this year.

All from Gemini.
From 2012-2023 they averaged 28-30k. Covid excluded because of partial shutdowns they have not hit those benchmarks since. Oh and since you quote Gemini, Copilot comments that lack of historic rivalries and tradition from the Pac 12 has contributed in a decrease in ticket sales. In addition the media revenue dropped significantly for them which is about 25 to 50% of a schools athletic budget. Case in point. The demise of two once proud Pac 12 schools in the has them fishing for money and students. We along with many other institutions not in the P2 are not Immune to this.
 
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lol delusion is a powerful drug! So in your way of thinking Wazzu and Oregon State have had no economic impact from the Pac 12 being decimated and being restructured, diminishing their media rights from $30 mil to $10-$13 mil annually? Media in eastern Washington have reported that the collapse of the former Pac-12 in 2023 has since diminished football attendance, affecting the hospitality and restaurant industry in the region and pushing businesses to the brink in Pullman. Enrollment has dropped from 28k to 22k. With every waking day the B1G and $EC are trying to box out more and more teams not listed in their club. They make all the coin so they cut off up an coming schools at the knees (JMU, NDSU, Boise State, USF). If it's not skewing the CFP toward their favor, it's the no cap rules for NIL. Major college sports affect the whole ecosystem of a community and state.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/st...enue-cratered-realignment-exodus/90111573007/
Did you even read the article?

Comparing Pac12 TV revenue from 12 teams and a game inventory of 54 conference games vs. a 2 team conference playing 2 conference games- against each other!!

The reality, the demise of the Pac12 was a financial win for 10 teams!
 
Did you even read the article?

Comparing Pac12 TV revenue from 12 teams and a game inventory of 54 conference games vs. a 2 team conference playing 2 conference games- against each other!!

The reality, the demise of the Pac12 was a financial win for 10 teams!
Another message board genius post.