Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

ND will not join a conference until they have no path for making the playoff without being a conference member. So unless the committee that picks the teams passes a rule that only teams that play in.a conference are eligible, ND will stay an independent.

The committee that picks the teams?

It’s not up to them.

The Big Ten and SEC hold the power to change the CFP's format for 2026 to 2031, effectively neutering the other FBS conferences and Notre Dame.

Would they find a horsetrade that involves ND being forced to the BIG? In a two party system, it’s not inconceivable they find such a resolution

Come 2032, when the CFP and NCAAT deals are up, who knows what college football looks like, let alone the CFP.
 
Like how the national media were first on USC?

The national media generally have to wait until its already happened and time to be officially made public.

This is very likely premature at best, or even disinformation, given MHver has no reason to filter or vet. He’s liable to repost rumors from elsewhere as sourced inside info, but he’s not Swaim clickbait either

Any legitimate source knows these types will spread it to the audiences that care about realignment. A good way to gauge reactions, or push desired narratives.

We know the BIG is working on figuring out how to get ND. We know things aren’t exactly stable, with ACC schools now able to move, BIG ADs implying expansion will continue, and everyone trying to better position themselves for 2032ish changes
Part of the problem with MHver is that no one knows who he is. Which could be a good thing because he is leaking actual behind the scene info... doubtful he is that connected. Or he could be completely Full of crap dude in his moms basement just pretending.

Its hard to take actual connected people at their word these days, let alone someone who completely hides their identity.
 
Part of the problem with MHver is that no one knows who he is. Which could be a good thing because he is leaking actual behind the scene info... doubtful he is that connected. Or he could be completely Full of crap dude in his moms basement just pretending.

Its hard to take actual connected people at their word these days, let alone someone who completely hides their identity.

Depends on your objective.

If you want certainty in what you read, you wait until it’s a done deal and leaked to the favorite national media outlet

If you want to be on the nascent edge of realignment happenings, you’ll need to comb through the graffiti of the MHver’s of the internet. They won’t always be right, but that doesn’t mean the information was wrong at the time or that they can’t have good intel. But it could be complete ****. It’s on the reader to distinguish

I prefer the Fluguar types that don’t need to abide by reporting standards but also have social capital risk in what they say

Imo when MHver uses specific details when calling his shot, it usually means he’s passing along something he’s been told, but he’s prone to being a useful idiot.

I lean towards this being a half truth or having a specific intended audience
 
Part of the problem with MHver is that no one knows who he is. Which could be a good thing because he is leaking actual behind the scene info... doubtful he is that connected. Or he could be completely Full of crap dude in his moms basement just pretending.

Its hard to take actual connected people at their word these days, let alone someone who completely hides their identity.
Right. It's not a Trilly Donovan situation.

This guy is nothing but a Twitter handle.
 
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ND will not join a conference until they have no path for making the playoff without being a conference member. So unless the committee that picks the teams passes a rule that only teams that play in.a conference are eligible, ND will stay an independent.
ND's TV contract with NBC expires after the 2029 season and Brett McMurphy recently reported on ND's well publicized aversion to joining the B10 anytime soon (which probably prompted McHver trolling). And with media rights pooling, B10 will downsize back to its core 10 while ND can remain indy.

 
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The committee that picks the teams?

It’s not up to them.

The Big Ten and SEC hold the power to change the CFP's format for 2026 to 2031, effectively neutering the other FBS conferences and Notre Dame.

Would they find a horsetrade that involves ND being forced to the BIG? In a two party system, it’s not inconceivable they find such a resolution

Come 2032, when the CFP and NCAAT deals are up, who knows what college football looks like, let alone the CFP.
It's easy to be jaded about the SEC and B10, but schools in ACC or B12 are not ND, one of the only schools with a true national following. Only school with their own TV deal on a major network. ND can afford to stay in the ACC for their other sports until "they" decide to join a conference. I highly doubt the B10 or SEC is going to pass or refuse to take them if they decide they want to join each conference. The B10 can talk all they want about pressuring ND, but if the Irish we wanted in, they would be doing everything possible to make it happen. Last whale in a pond of smaller fish.
 
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Depends on your objective.

I prefer the Fluguar types that don’t need to abide by reporting standards but also have social capital risk in what they say
LOL, Fluguar the fat ass who is nothing but a B10 shill.

And you are spot on with your objective. You will digest any info that somehow ends up with USF being in a depleted ACC.
 
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ND will not join a conference until they have no path for making the playoff without being a conference member. So unless the committee that picks the teams passes a rule that only teams that play in.a conference are eligible, ND will stay an independent.
I totally agree. The one thing that might complicate things for ND is if they can no longer put together a strong schedule as an independent.

For instance if all of the blue bloods in the ACC leave and then the SEC and BigTen announce a scheduling agreement. Also USC has made some comments about their schedule already being too tough and maybe needing to drop the ND game. And I don’t know when it will happen but it seems likely to me that at some point the BigTen will go to a 10 game conference schedule because the TV networks will pay a lot more for those games than they will for most of what ends up getting scheduled in non-conference.

Anyway, I think some combination of the above is likely to happen in the next few years and ND might have to choose between giving up their independence and a schedule full of schools like Wake Forest and Boston College.
 
ND keeps making things interesting. They will work to get what they want, but it could get ugly. If I kick you in the shorts and do things to make business miserable, why do I what to join you conference? Maybe the Big 12 should say we will work with you? Get on there schedule for all sports? Give them options to look at. Make the BIG and SEC the bad guys that they are.
 
ND keeps making things interesting. They will work to get what they want, but it could get ugly. If I kick you in the shorts and do things to make business miserable, why do I what to join you conference? Maybe the Big 12 should say we will work with you? Get on there schedule for all sports? Give them options to look at. Make the BIG and SEC the bad guys that they are.
I’ve had that same thought. It’s sort of a natural human reaction to resist something you feel like you’re being forced into and from what I’ve read, some ND donors have an extreme aversion to giving up independence.

It’s just going to depend on what happens after the ACC gets poached. I imagine there will be a flurry of meetings and phone calls as the ACC tries to backfill and the Big12 tries to poach the middle class of the ACC.

If whatever conference that emerges from that can offer ND a schedule that’s at least somewhat comparable to what they have this year then I could easily imagine ND staying independent (with a scheduling agreement for 5-7 games against the ACC or Big12).
 
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I’ve had that same thought. It’s sort of a natural human reaction to resist something you feel like you’re being forced into and from what I’ve read, some ND donors have an extreme aversion to giving up independence.

It’s just going to depend on what happens after the ACC gets poached. I imagine there will be a flurry of meetings and phone calls as the ACC tries to backfill and the Big12 tries to poach the middle class of the ACC.

If whatever conference that emerges from that can offer ND a schedule that’s at least somewhat comparable to what they have this year then I could easily imagine ND staying independent (with a scheduling agreement for 5-7 games against the ACC or Big12).
Even if the cream of the ACC is poached by the B10 and SEC, there would still be enough teams left over folded into the new ACC/B12 for ND to get a large part of the schedule filled, throw in the service academies and then the fact they are ND, they are always going to be schools in the B10 and SEC willing to play them, even if they moved to a 10 game conference schedule down the road and have to schedule them on what should have been a bye week for them. A home and home series with ND is just too good for any team to turn down.
 
Even if the cream of the ACC is poached by the B10 and SEC, there would still be enough teams left over folded into the new ACC/B12 for ND to get a large part of the schedule filled, throw in the service academies and then the fact they are ND, they are always going to be schools in the B10 and SEC willing to play them, even if they moved to a 10 game conference schedule down the road and have to schedule them on what should have been a bye week for them. A home and home series with ND is just too good for any team to turn down.
I think you’re probably right. Also the SEC has always played some non-conference games even into November and I could see the SEC being extra accommodating to make sure ND doesn’t get forced into the BigTen. I do think scheduling is going to be more challenging for ND in the future though as the BigTen and SEC may only have one or two non-conference dates available in the next few years if some of these rumored changes actually take place.
 
ND keeps making things interesting. They will work to get what they want, but it could get ugly. If I kick you in the shorts and do things to make business miserable, why do I what to join you conference? Maybe the Big 12 should say we will work with you? Get on there schedule for all sports? Give them options to look at. Make the BIG and SEC the bad guys that they are.
ND ain't joining any conference until and unless their path to the CFP is compromised by being independent.
 
ND ain't joining any conference until and unless their path to the CFP is compromised by being independent.
The only scenario I can fathom is if the ACC implodes to a degree where its remaining members no longer carry the strength of a P4
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The B1G essentially freezes ND out of scheduling its traditional rivals to force their hand into a full/associate member position.
 
The only scenario I can fathom is if the ACC implodes to a degree where its remaining members no longer carry the strength of a P4
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The B1G essentially freezes ND out of scheduling its traditional rivals to force their hand into a full/associate member position.
Yeah I don't know. ND would have options in that scenario and I don't see them just rolling over if the B1G tries crapping on them. I also don't see any kind of half or associate membership ever being an option for ND in the B1G akin to the arrangement with the ACC. It'd be all or nothing.
 
It's easy to be jaded about the SEC and B10, but schools in ACC or B12 are not ND, one of the only schools with a true national following. Only school with their own TV deal on a major network. ND can afford to stay in the ACC for their other sports until "they" decide to join a conference. I highly doubt the B10 or SEC is going to pass or refuse to take them if they decide they want to join each conference. The B10 can talk all they want about pressuring ND, but if the Irish we wanted in, they would be doing everything possible to make it happen. Last whale in a pond of smaller fish.

Why did you think the committee that selects teams making a rule has any part in this? Odd comment and not how things work.

That was a quote from a CBS article on the CFP

Independence is no longer up to ND- it’s up to the P2 and their benefactors (networks). All ND can do is grovel

The P2 control the CFP format, and the networks control whether ND gets paid

If the P2 and Fox/ESPN align on ND joining a conference, there isn’t really anything ND can do. They’d capitulate
 
Why did you think the committee that selects teams making a rule has any part in this? Odd comment and not how things work.

That was a quote from a CBS article on the CFP

Independence is no longer up to ND- it’s up to the P2 and their benefactors (networks). All ND can do is grovel

The P2 control the CFP format, and the networks control whether ND gets paid

If the P2 and Fox/ESPN align on ND joining a conference, there isn’t really anything ND can do. They’d capitulate
Its very simple, its not SEC and B10 calling the shots its ESPN and FOX sports, and both of those networks would want ND to be part of a playoff. Having them into the playoff means more people watching than them sitting at home. The B10 and SEC are nothing but the face of it, the two networks, supplying the money are the power behind this whole thing and always has been.
 
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This will be one hell of a court battle. Plus you will get Congress involved. There are several people who hoping to make a name for themselves in Congress. Right, wrong or whatever.
Yeah, tt has started already with the SCORE Act (which codifies House and may end up including the SBA amendment) and the likes of Sankey/Pettiti lobbying the Feds for an Anti-Trust Exemption. SCORE may be iffy to get passed but those two won't get an Anti-Trust Exemption with continued realignment/relegation manipulation they help orchestrate including the bullying of ND into the B10 or SEC.
 
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