Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Stormin

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Colorado and Arizona should wake up as they watch SDSU get screwed by the PAC 12. Beware.
 

clone52

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Tradition and rivalries, what we all say the new realignments have killed. We can't chastise them for holding onto what we wish the rest of us could have.
That doesn't really apply to Colorado or Utah, although Utah's hatred of BYU might keep them away.

Arizona would have the history and rivalries, but are those worth a loss of 25-50 Million over 5 years? If Arizona State came too, Arizona wouldn't have to worry about losing its rivalries.
 

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Why would the 4 corner schools sign a multi year GOR agreement to a conference that provides significantly less money, significantly less exposure, and significantly less stability?

If they do sign, then they deserve whatever fate awaits them.
By signing a GOR agreement for 5/6 years it would give the schools a "pause" while trying to get a better picture of their future. Doing a 5/6 year deal gets them roughly to 2030, the ACC GOR ends within 4 or 5 years of that date, close enough that it would allow those schools to start looking into moving to the B10 and SEC.

The universities are just going to have to be willing to pay more to keep their athletic programs going until then, but they also get less travel, play longtime rivals and have a better understanding of which path to follow. At 12 teams by then, the B12 will be adding at least four, and maybe six teams, Arizona and Colorado will be two of those teams if they want it.
 

Stormin

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Why would the 4 corner schools sign a multi year GOR agreement to a conference that provides significantly less money, significantly less exposure, and significantly less stability?

If they do sign, then they deserve whatever fate awaits them.

Colorado has tradition, history and rivalries with the Big 12. None with PAC 12.
 

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Losing exposure means losing recruits. Schools like Stanford and Cal might be OK with limited exposure, but I can't believe the other 8 schools would be. Maybe WSU & OSU because they could be destined for the MWC. But I can't believe 4 & 5 star kids will go to schools with maybe 500k-1M people watching their games. I can't believe it would help OR WA getting into the Big10 or 4 Corner schools to Big12 around 2030. Especially if ACC schools are in play this decade.

Having Pac12 go with a heavy streaming deal would help the Big10, Big12 and SEC having the Pac12 be an incubator for streaming revenue over the next 6 years. The key on the streaming deal will be if production costs are offloaded to the schools. So $30M might not be a net equivalent to the Big12's $31.7M.
The streaming percentage will be interesting. I'd say Oregon might say if linear is above 25% they're good with it because they'll always be on linear. Oregon St. and WSU might be fine if it meant more money, because they probably aren't going to be on linear if it's anything less than 50%, outside of their in-state rivalry games.

I think the teams most concerned about that mix are going to be the likes of UW, Utah, and probably CU. CU probably thinks they could rack up some linear slots with the Sanders interest. Utah has been a good brand, but knows they are going usually lose out to OU in the TV pecking order, and if CU is even decent they'll get some of those slots, especially early in the year. I'd say that difference between 25 and 50% linear is going to cost Utah, UW and maybe CU along with any of the others that might have a better than expected season.
 
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Alas we've got another deadline:



I wonder if this new deadline is a result of the Arizona president or AD saying that they want a minimum of 50% of games on linear TV when we've been hearing that 80% would be streaming. Thus going back to the negotiation table.
 

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I wonder if this new deadline is a result of the Arizona president or AD saying that they want a minimum of 50% of games on linear TV when we've been hearing that 80% would be streaming. Thus going back to the negotiation table.
It almost feels like the AZ AD is trying to layout multiple rationales for bailing. As if he has made up his mind but needs to have the "well, we said this was a must and they didn't deliver". No need to say it out loud in public if you just want GK to know what your MIRs are.

As far as Labor Day, how ridiculous. We know Big12 has plenty of time to wait, but how soon does the Big12 need to know for scheduling in 2024? October? January? At some point, its' not that you won't get an invite, but that you have missed the window for 2024. And now you're screwed, either stuck in the Pac or else playing a home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home with San Diego State.

We've joked maybe GK's strategy is to string everyone out until they have no other choices left, but if they are still effing around in ~November, wouldn't you have to just say "enough" and head to the Big12?
 
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CascadeClone

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I’m guessing Kliavkoff et al will just say they’re not taking any media rights negotiation questions at the PAC media days on 7/21 then.
"Those negotiations are going very very well, but I can't really comment on them in detail due to confidentiality."
 
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It almost feels like the AZ AD is trying to layout multiple rationales for bailing. As if he has made up his mind but needs to have the "well, we said this was a must and they didn't deliver". No need to say it out loud in public if you just want GK to know what your MIRs are.

As far as Labor Day, how ridiculous. We know Big12 has plenty of time to wait, but how soon does the Big12 need to know for scheduling in 2024? October? January? At some point, its' not that you won't get an invite, but that you have missed the window for 2024. And now you're screwed, either stuck in the Pac or else playing a home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home with San Diego State.

We've joked maybe GK's strategy is to string everyone out until they have no other choices left, but if they are still effing around in ~November, wouldn't you have to just say "enough" and head to the Big12?
I’m guessing the next stipulation the Arizona president comes out with is a drop dead date. He’s running out of other things to stipulate.
 

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There’s no deal. They aren’t close to a deal. We’ve entered in to “take whatever the PAC leadership and the PAC spoon fed media says and believe the opposite” territory.

They aren’t close to a deal. Time to start thinking about a world where they aren’t offered a new deal that is even equal to what they get now and they just dissolve.
 
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It almost feels like the AZ AD is trying to layout multiple rationales for bailing. As if he has made up his mind but needs to have the "well, we said this was a must and they didn't deliver". No need to say it out loud in public if you just want GK to know what your MIRs are.

As far as Labor Day, how ridiculous. We know Big12 has plenty of time to wait, but how soon does the Big12 need to know for scheduling in 2024? October? January? At some point, its' not that you won't get an invite, but that you have missed the window for 2024. And now you're screwed, either stuck in the Pac or else playing a home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home with San Diego State.

We've joked maybe GK's strategy is to string everyone out until they have no other choices left, but if they are still effing around in ~November, wouldn't you have to just say "enough" and head to the Big12?
Usually when things like this are possible they will have multiple schedules made up. One for if things stay the same, one for adding two schools, and one for adding the corner schools, etc. If the pac schools jump scheduling would be the least of my concerns.
 

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