My bad on the analogy. It’s just frustrating all around. Then again, March Madness committee is all about sexy matchmaking. Football just feels like apples and oranges to hoops on tournament structure.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Wonder if Iowa State could offer to play it in Arrowhead or similar and get any traction for hosting?
It’s all good, it’s what is making the rounds. If you check the actual exchange I posted it has absolutely nothing to do with seeding or anything of the sort.
No need, it’s a completely false statement taken out of context, a game in Ames would be awesome
I’d like to think the quote was taken out of context. I don’t believe they can be THAT obvious but I can see where maybe a 9 seeded Texas would have to go to an 8 seeded Penn State. They could flip those to play in Austin factoring those variables and justify it somehow through SOS or something.
Fast forward a few years where P2 have been clearing tens of millions of media money annually over XII/ACC. Suddenly those practice facilities, hotel space, ticket revenue, etc become less of a problem for being “acceptable.”
I look at what Bama’s rise in the 00’s has done for Tuscaloosa. That place is intimately tied to Bama and its football success. Otherwise it’s not a sexy place. Its population grew 27% from 2000 to 2020.
From my chair this just feels like another data point on the slow squeeze of the haves over the have nots. ISU just never gets the benefit of the eye test. Maybe that is small thinking on my part, but the constant manipulation of the chess pieces by the suits is annoying for an “amateur” sport.
Doubt it. I would think 100% of ticket revenue goes to BCS.
Host schools get all or share of concessions. Remember the move to 12 is all about greed by BCS.
I agree with what you’re saying but the question wasn’t even about seeding, it’s about what is different from hosting a conference game vs a playoff game.
Wrong as heck on March Madness as well. MBB Committee ranks the teams 1-68 and a computer does the bracketing based on that ranking, venue location and bracketing criteria (e.g. regular season rematches avoided, etc.).
Not sure why it's surprising that FSU and Clemson are not the top priorities of the Big10 & SEC. I still think there is a lot of interest by both conferences toward those schools, but other priorities come first.
The most valued schools are UNC & UVA. Both schools are in highly populated states, located in new territory and possess elite academics (that's the icing). The Big10 and SEC both realize they are going to have to pay full shares to both schools. And in the Big10's case- also a full share to ND. So they want to go into negotations with those schools with a full war chest.
Also don't know how much to believe some of the talk out there that UNC/NCST and UVA/VT are package deals. I doubt either the Big10 or SEC wants both schools in each state, but negotiatons typically include a lot of posturing.
The most valued schools are UNC & UVA. Both schools are in highly populated states, located in new territory and possess elite academics (that's the icing). The Big10 and SEC both realize they are going to have to pay full shares to both schools. And in the Big10's case- also a full share to ND. So they want to go into negotations with those schools with a full war chest.
Also don't know how much to believe some of the talk out there that UNC/NCST and UVA/VT are package deals. I doubt either the Big10 or SEC wants both schools in each state, but negotiatons typically include a lot of posturing.
And people say the Big 12 and yormark are ruining CFB lol. In a perfect world yeah jersey sponsorships etc. suck but when the sec and big ten are doing this stuff it's nothing.
You are correct that they will not have 6-8 months to plan for a playoff game, but they do not need that much time. These will not be like bowl games where the team arrives a week before the game. Schools will fly in a day or two before the game, they will be allowed to use the host schools practice facilities 3/4 hours a day for practice. Ticket wise the host school will get a certain percentage to sell to their fans as well as the visiting team. Say ISU is hosting then we get 15/20K tickets, the visiting them gets 15/20K and the rest go to the playoff committee to sell or give to the conferences. You are not going to see UT hosting say MSU with the spartans only getting 2K tickets.
Hotels will be a problem for most of the smaller schools but ISU could use Des Moines and the burbs to host the visiting team and EIU would use Cedar Rapids. Just because the game is in Ames or IC, does not mean the away team has to stay in that town.
Look most things, people are going to complain, but it will work out in the end.
FCS teams don't even get to keep any ticket money for playoff games (in 99% of cases). I'll bet that not only will they have to forfeit most of that ticket money, they'll have to pay a guarantee to host.
I guess I don’t see the problem with this?
There are guys who are only dedicated to recruiting. This isn’t much different.
I would hope we have some sort of plan in the works when it comes to managing this. For both football and men’s basketball.
I think the problem is there are about 10 schools just doing whatever, paying whatever, trying to money grab and basically ruining a zillion years of tradition and it only continues to spiral out of control with no end in sight.
It's like they are never going to be happy. And now that these smuck schools are closing into a power 2, half the schools that did have success are going to become irrelevant and super unhappy.
This is just my opinion, but who knows.
i get what you are saying about just recruiting though.
I vote for Cyclone Larry.
