Random Thoughts IV
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I completely disagree. Teens are not known for their strong decision making skills. Research shows that as well. They may know they want to play, but they aren't going to accurately weigh that desire against things that may not affect them for 20-30 years. That's a 12 year old being a 12 year old. Not a parental failure. It's the parent's job to override the kids' decision if the parent does not feel the long-term is worth the short-term.
Other than the research that concludes that preteens or early teens don't have the complex cognitive reasoning skills to reliably make a good decision involving delayed consequences. It's not a matter of their parents failing them, their brains are not mature enough to do it.
I really don't think any of us are that far off, I just don't know if you saw the initial context. Janny kinda said he'd sit his kid down and give the pros and cons of football, and they wanted to play, he'd want to let him (it's more complex than that, I'm summarizing). I simply pointed out that children are shown by research to be horrible at decisions involving delayed consequences (i.e. it'd be really cool to play football now, but I *might* have physical consequences later)...a lot of the time, they're going to choose the instant results now and ignore the risks of later consequences. All humans aren't great at this, we ignore possible risks, but children are much worse.
I don't think it's a parents job to make sure they live in a bubble until they're 18, I think it's their job to prepare their children for life. Saying "I refuse to let you do something you'd really enjoy and would gain lots of positive life experiences from because there's a chance you might get hurt" is not the way to properly do so.
But as KC said, it IS the parents job to make sure they don't rush back from an injury, for example, or quit because something didn't go the way they wanted it to, as a growing and developing tool that child can use for the rest of their life.
Strictly my opinion, of course.
Right...neither CG or I are saying that. I'm not even saying I'd keep my kids out of football, I was merely saying to Janny that if he was feeling good about helping his child make an informed choice by laying out the pros and cons, he should factor in that they're horrible in the conditions that would take place in. And, making decisions for your children to prevent them from getting hurt despite what they may get out of it if they don't get hurt is a core part of what parenting is...it's just at what level you choose to do it....some go too far, some don't go far enough. I'm not going to let my kid ride on the top of the car driving slowly around the block, even though he'd have a helluva time doing so, because he only *might* fall off. I haven't decided on football, but I was disappointed that I didn't even get to choose when I didn't realize they have it for 5 YO's and his buddy plays.
Again, really all I'm saying is that you can make a decision for it or against it...but to say that you made the best decision because you sat them down and explained the possible consequences and they made an informed decision...it's giving you a sense that they made an informed decision, but in reality, research shows that kids aren't capable of doing that.
yikes, had a stormchaser episode. Order didn't arrive today like it said, looked and said undeliverable. Looked and I must have dumbly autofilled the shipping. SHoot, I call the post office in town. They are like well if it says this one thing, it ships back to Milwaukee and gets forwarded. If it doesn't say that, it gets RECYCLED! He looks and looks and in the last place he finds the package. It did have the address service thing so I would have been ok but yikes.
That's a new one. Actually I typed Apt W instead of E once, because they're right next to each other. Found the UPS guy wandering around the complex frantically trying to find W. Highest letter is L. Had delivered a package to me the day before, so I thought he might recognize the name and would have left it at my door anyway, but nope. They probably don't look at names much.
So really quick minor rant. There was a law school picnic today and Bucky was there. A girl I've become friends with and I take a picture with him and post it on Facebook. Soon after, an uncle of mine who's a hawk fan posts about how I can't bring Bucky home or something like that. I know it's really minor and I'll just talk to him during a break but it annoys me that he posted that. I am a law student at UW, he did not go to Iowa, and I hate smack talk. he already had said I can't wear UW stuff to their house. I know he's joking, but I will be a UW student, I will make tons of friends here and I might meet my spouse here. I'll be in pictures with UW stuff and I can't have him posting in all of them. It just looks terrible to me
I just had a 25 comment debate with my Hawk fan cousin (also never attended Iowa, or college at all) after I posted something Iowa State yesterday. It's what they do. I wouldn't get too worked up about it unless you tagged the girl in the picture. And she's cute.
Today is Thursday. I've been to the bar everyday this week except Sunday so far. I know for a fact I'll be here tomorrow and more than likely Saturday. They should just name this place after me.
And besides...wiscy people probably realize hawk fans are dooshers just like we do.
*edit: Whoops, sorry bags, didn't mean to post this right after you. Should have said "Most" hawk fans are dooshers.
I think Antiairbhg knows he's usually excluded from the typical hawk talk on here.
Well, yeah, but since I put it *right* after his post, I thought I should address it, just to be sure.
Don't see that every day:
A-4, F-16, F-35 flying formation.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/historic-photo-shows-3rd-4th-and-5th-generation-combat-1727095944
*edit: Also learned at the end of the article, there are private companies that are essentially playing the role of the Washington Generals to the Globetrotters...professional opponents. They fly the A-4 and stuff to keep from putting miles on the newer 22's and 35's.
A-4, F-16, F-35 flying formation.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/historic-photo-shows-3rd-4th-and-5th-generation-combat-1727095944
*edit: Also learned at the end of the article, there are private companies that are essentially playing the role of the Washington Generals to the Globetrotters...professional opponents. They fly the A-4 and stuff to keep from putting miles on the newer 22's and 35's.
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