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Well, one possible reason to look up...little ones can drastically change your perspective. However, they can also amplify your issues as well. Keep working on it.

I 'worry' about money only to the extent that I manage it and automate it well enough so I don't have to worry about it, and won't have to worry about it in the future

Between my parents and us there won't be any financial concerns if a true problem arises. However I've already begun thinking about college savings, budget changes for a new car, asset allocation for better long-term growth, etc. Not to mention the day-to-day expenses.

I automate everything as well and currently save about 15% net gross and 19% net income. However the thought of reducing that due to a baby eats me up inside and I don't know why. No clue. My guess is the baby will help with my anxieties.
 
Between my parents and us there won't be any financial concerns if a true problem arises. However I've already begun thinking about college savings, budget changes for a new car, asset allocation for better long-term growth, etc. Not to mention the day-to-day expenses.

I automate everything as well and currently save about 15% net gross and 19% net income. However the thought of reducing that due to a baby eats me up inside and I don't know why. No clue. My guess is the baby will help with my anxieties.


OK, last thought (I think), then I'm done being "offer unsolicited advice guy"...increasingly today, once you get financially secure, the thing we often run short on is time. I'd love to do this or that, but I don't have time. Obligations of work/family/etc. take our calendar and fill it. In that light, take your net income and equate a dollar amount with a time amount...pretty simple Net income/hours worked=hourly rate. Then take a look at that 19% and decide if you're willing to spend X amount of time per week to go to that savings. Think of the time you spend on other things you enjoy doing, would you re-adjust your priorities to get more of that time?

I think a lot of times, we get hung up on dollars and cents and balance sheets, but in the end, for most of us...money is time. It's what we get in return for going somewhere and doing something instead of doing something entertaining or 'fun'...I enjoy my work, so I'm not going there, but when you break it down, we give someone or something our time, we get money.

If you're like a lot of college degreed people, that 19% probably represents around 10 hours. Now granted, if you're like most of us, you can't decide you don't want to save as much, so you're going to cut back by 6 hours of work and take a pay cut equivalent, but you could decide that you'll take that remaining 4 hours and put it toward some extra quality time with your wife. Especially coming up...hiring a sitter and going out for a date night...or for us, buying time with my wife's family (they all live out of state, so it's vacation time and plane tickets for 2/3 of them). Granted, neither of these might be valid scenarios for you, but it's an exercise...maybe that extra 4 hours means you are planning on retiring early...that's a long payoff gamble, though.
 
Haha we don't do envelopes. I should amend that to say I strongly believe in the concept of getting out of debt.


No worries, I actually would have been surprised if someone as young as yourself actually DID the envelopes, unless your financial woes were that great (and considering you own a plane...I think???, I doubt that).

I also agree with a lot of what he says, thankfully for us, I had an experience right out of college, then right after we got married that while I paid a stupid tax on them, I learned my lesson well from them.
 
No worries, I actually would have been surprised if someone as young as yourself actually DID the envelopes, unless your financial woes were that great (and considering you own a plane...I think???, I doubt that).

I also agree with a lot of what he says, thankfully for us, I had an experience right out of college, then right after we got married that while I paid a stupid tax on them, I learned my lesson well from them.

We did for a bit after we went through FPU at our church in Ames. At the time we were still in Ames as my wife was finishing her last year. She was babysitting and going to school and I was working a $10/hour a job. We eventually realized we have no money to save as we were just scraping by.

The planes are my aunt and uncles that I fly. Actually heading out in a bit to fly the 172 I learned in for probably the last time. The company I hope to work for has an employee flying club so once we get stable I will join that.
 
We did for a bit after we went through FPU at our church in Ames. At the time we were still in Ames as my wife was finishing her last year. She was babysitting and going to school and I was working a $10/hour a job. We eventually realized we have no money to save as we were just scraping by.

The planes are my aunt and uncles that I fly. Actually heading out in a bit to fly the 172 I learned in for probably the last time. The company I hope to work for has an employee flying club so once we get stable I will join that.


Holy ****, there's a perk...while I'm not into flying, if they're hiring, let me know.
 
Holy ****, there's a perk...while I'm not into flying, if they're hiring, let me know.

Haha I don't of the company subsidizes it but it is there. Cessna/Beechcraft (Textron Aviation) has an epic flying club. The company subsidizes the bejesus out of it. You can rent through them for basically just the cost of fuel. It is amazing.
 
Every room I have been in today has been hot as ****.

I gave up years ago trying to out guess the office HVAC system and how it reacts to changing outside temps. It's why my little cubicle closet has a sweater and a polo shirt in it so I can reverse what I wore into work.
 
as someone else who grew up in a family where money got more than a little tight a few times, I understand the obsession and wanting to feel about 6 times more secure than you actually need to be. Mint.com has been great for that - I can see where money is going and set up long and short term goals to watch progress. It turns it into more of a game for me then and makes me think twice about purchases that aren't really worth it.

Obviously no kiddos yet, but I can easily see how that one adds stress. You suddenly have someone who will take a chunk of income, but unlike a spouse - not have the ability to bring any in. From everything I've read though, beyond daycare, babies are as expensive as you make them. Garage sales, making your own baby food - stuff like that can help.

And daycare is temporary. The first year will be the worst so if you can make it through that, it's almost like you'll get a pay raise when they move out of newborn rates.
 
Based on the finance talk so far I am pretty much sold on investing heavily in Hawaiian Egg futures. Winning!

Don't go throwing your money at them yet. There's a reason they're always fully stocked while it's a battle finding 12 unbroken eggs out of the remaing cartons literally labeled "Mainland Eggs".
 
I've never known anyone with no child, that's not preggars, know as much about child raising as CG.....


Most of my no kids yet friends would know the same as I do. Friends have kids and they talk about their kids. Or SIL talks about the nieces. Plus if you are planning to have them within a few years, it's a good idea to have a rough idea of what the major costs are.
 
I've never known anyone with no child, that's not preggars, know as much about child raising as CG.....
A couple years ago, a cousin of mine, married with kids said to me, "You're not married and don't have kids, so you don't know anything about life."

Even if she has a point, I thought it was a little extreme.
 
A couple years ago, a cousin of mine, married with kids said to me, "You're not married and don't have kids, so you don't know anything about life."

Even if she has a point, I thought it was a little extreme.


so what did she think of people who never got married or had kids? They were living in some kind of alternate life? That's just so odd.
 
so what did she think of people who never got married or had kids? They were living in some kind of alternate life? That's just so odd.
A family member and his wife have been trying for years, but they just haven't gotten things to go their way. She says they aren't doing it right.

All of her life she's had the "I'm always right, therefore everyone is wrong" mentality, but it's pathetic how bad it's gotten.
 
A family member and his wife have been trying for years, but they just haven't gotten things to go their way. She says they aren't doing it right.

All of her life she's had the "I'm always right, therefore everyone is wrong" mentality, but it's pathetic how bad it's gotten.


Did everyone line up to ***** slap her?
 
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