Prohm is 9-16 at ISU

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  1. Jkclone15

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    In games decided by 3 points or less. These last pair of heartbreakers made me curious as to how good we've been in the Prohm era in one possession games. I tried to count OT as less than 3 but may have missed one or two. Just to deepen the look I also checked games decided by 6 points or less:
    2019-20: 3: 0-2 6: 0-3
    2018-19: 3: 1-4 6: 5-7
    2017-18: 3: 1-2 6: 3-6
    2016-17: 3: 5-4 6: 8-7
    2015-16: 3: 2-4 6: 4-7
    Total: 3: 9-16 (36%) 6: 20-30 (40%)
     
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  2. IASTATE07

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    More solid overtime.
     
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  3. UnCytely

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    Tim Floyd practically feasted on close games while at ISU. For Prohm, they are his bane.
     
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  4. madguy30

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    Other ISU coaches?
     
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  5. Jkclone15

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    I'd be interested to see how this compares to other conference coaches. I'd bet even a lot of great coaches at there probably aren't much above 50% in games in like this, there's a lot of variables involved in close games beyond just calling plays.
     
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  8. CTTB78

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    Floyd knew who to target down the stretch. He would have feasted on putting Samuel on the line until they were forced to take him out. Prohm, for what ever reason, didn't go after the biggest liability TCU has.
     
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  9. NickTheGreat

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    Something he and Campbell can bond over.
     
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    Floyd was working the clock once we got an 8-4 lead.
     
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    These numbers don't mean much to me until I see how that compares with other coaches.
     
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  12. OPButtrey

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    Yep. Floyd is the only coach i've ever seen that would start committing intentional fouls with 4 or 5 minutes left in the game and it always seemed to work .
     
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    Did he really? Floyd was just a touch above .500.

    94-95 3-6
    95-96 4-1
    96-97 4-3
    97-98 4-3

    Overall 15-13
     
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    Hoiberg

    10-11 3-4
    11-12 3-1
    12-13 1-3
    13-14 4-0
    14-15 4-3

    Overall 15-11
     
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  15. Al_4_State

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    I actually would have guessed Hoiberg had a worse record in close games than 15-11. 2015 Big 12 tournament really helped him out there.

    Prohm is really bad at close games though. I wouldn't expect that to change.
     
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  16. Cyballzz

    Cyballzz Well-Known Member

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    CBB reference has Prohm with 38 games decided by 6 points (either way) or go to OT.

    Prohm is 17-21 in those games

    Prohm is 8-8 in games decided by 3 points or less
    Prohm is 17-19 in games decided by 6 points or less

    Chris Beard is 18-13 in games decided by 6 points (either way) or go to OT.

    Chris Beard is 8-7 in games decided by 3 points or less
    Chris Beard is 18-11 in games decided by 6 points or less
     
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  17. Urbandale2013

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    I feel like you don’t understand how big a gulf that is in reality. Hoiberg was .577. Floyd was .536. Prohm as was stated is .360. That is the Grand Canyon when it comes to coaching ability.
     
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  18. isufbcurt

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    I agree there is a huge difference.

    But the poster I quoted said "Floyd feasted on close games at ISU", while .536 is good I don't think it qualifies as "feasted". After reading the "feasted" comment I was expecting Floyd to be around .750.

    So I agree that Floyd was good in those games but I think it is a stretch to say he "feasted".
     
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    Close games often come down to in-bounds plays. Hoiberg had a beauty last night. The down-court pass for an open layup was an absolute dagger to the hopes of the Hoks.
     
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  20. jcyclonee

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    My math might be a little rusty but I think if you took the records of all the other coaches in close games it would be right around .500.
     
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