Possible candidates for ISU's open OC position...

NEICyFan

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LOL. One year is not a trend.

No, it's not. But here's a trend:

6
7
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That's a trend. And it isn't a good one. The program has 1 winning season in 5 under CPR. It was his first season and to achieve that winning season it required a 1 point win over a bad Tim Brewster coached Minnesota team. His conference record is also progressively worse and his conference winning % in 5 seasons is 33%. None of that adds up to job security.

On the plus side, there's not a lot of job security in college football coaching, anyway.
 

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No, it's not. But here's a trend:

6
7
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9

That's a trend. And it isn't a good one. The program has 1 winning season in 5 under CPR. It was his first season and to achieve that winning season it required a 1 point win over a bad Tim Brewster coached Minnesota team. His conference record is also progressively worse and his conference winning % in 5 seasons is 33%. None of that adds up to job security.

On the plus side, there's not a lot of job security in college football coaching, anyway.

You have to look at SOS and "Can someone else do better?"

Right now I think CPR is our best shot for the next few years. His mistake has been his offensive coordinator hires and overall QB decision making.
 

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I'm liking what I saw out of Marshall offense today in heir bowl. Creative, explosive at times, they used the TE very well (Hoskins is an animal), had a main receiver they featured...I thought they looked solid offensively. May be worth a phone call
 

im4cyclones

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No, it's not. But here's a trend:

6
7
7
7
9

That's a trend. And it isn't a good one. The program has 1 winning season in 5 under CPR. It was his first season and to achieve that winning season it required a 1 point win over a bad Tim Brewster coached Minnesota team. His conference record is also progressively worse and his conference winning % in 5 seasons is 33%. None of that adds up to job security.

On the plus side, there's not a lot of job security in college football coaching, anyway.

Not a trend. The only anomaly in his tenure is the 9 loss season. The difference between of 6 or 7 losses is negligible at best.

Basically a flat line with a dip at the end.
 

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No, it's not. But here's a trend:

6
7
7
7
9

That's a trend. And it isn't a good one. The program has 1 winning season in 5 under CPR. It was his first season and to achieve that winning season it required a 1 point win over a bad Tim Brewster coached Minnesota team. His conference record is also progressively worse and his conference winning % in 5 seasons is 33%. None of that adds up to job security.

On the plus side, there's not a lot of job security in college football coaching, anyway.

Funny how you always look at the bad but don't mention how ISU has one of the hardest schedules.
 

1Nation

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Do you guys really think we haven't identified our new OC yet? I would bet he's coming from a current bowl team and out of respect for the current program the announcement is being put off until the bowl game is over.
 

NEICyFan

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Funny how you always look at the bad but don't mention how ISU has one of the hardest schedules.

And that's not going to change. Anyone who doesn't think this isn't a huge season for the CPR tenure has their head buried in the sand.

Deep breaths, everyone. Just pointing out that among BCS OC jobs why ours might note among the most desirable. As stated many times, we can get a good one but I don't think he will be a "name."
 

NEICyFan

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Do you guys really think we haven't identified our new OC yet? I would bet he's coming from a current bowl team and out of respect for the current program the announcement is being put off until the bowl game is over.

There is little reason to wait for an OC announcement. We may be waiting to talk to some folks but it is unlikely we have an agreement in place.
 

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2 Thoughts on timing here.
1) It won't be internal, if it is waiting this long is just stupid since it has a recruiting impact and would make it appear you didn't get what you really wanted or you would have announced way sooner
2) The fact that there hasn't been even a hint of rumors to me indicates we probably got the first guy we want, otherwise agents or whatever would have leaked it to try to get raises for their guys.

Based on the zero in the terms of rumors and the timing I think we got our guy and that guy has to be still coaching.
 

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2 Thoughts on timing here.
1) It won't be internal, if it is waiting this long is just stupid since it has a recruiting impact and would make it appear you didn't get what you really wanted or you would have announced way sooner
2) The fact that there hasn't been even a hint of rumors to me indicates we probably got the first guy we want, otherwise agents or whatever would have leaked it to try to get raises for their guys.

Based on the zero in the terms of rumors and the timing I think we got our guy and that guy has to be still coaching.

Good points! I hope you're right.
 

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2 Thoughts on timing here.
1) It won't be internal, if it is waiting this long is just stupid since it has a recruiting impact and would make it appear you didn't get what you really wanted or you would have announced way sooner
2) The fact that there hasn't been even a hint of rumors to me indicates we probably got the first guy we want, otherwise agents or whatever would have leaked it to try to get raises for their guys.

Based on the zero in the terms of rumors and the timing I think we got our guy and that guy has to be still coaching.

I would agree with you if our second best recruit didn't just commit with his reason being he doesn't know who his coach will be. I would thing the staff would at lead inform their recruits to not lose them.
 

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I would agree with you if our second best recruit didn't just commit with his reason being he doesn't know who his coach will be. I would thing the staff would at lead inform their recruits to not lose them.

Did Mister say that was his reason? That's too bad, if so.
 

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I would agree with you if our second best recruit didn't just commit with his reason being he doesn't know who his coach will be. I would thing the staff would at lead inform their recruits to not lose them.

Unfortunate if that is the case. But I'm not sure if the intent is to keep it confidential until the new coach is done with his bowl game you could really let 15 guys still in high school in on it without it getting out. If I had a guess I would be willing to wager that almost all of our commits didn't choose Iowa State because of how close they felt with Mess. I know if I was a running back and there was no running backs coach or offensive coordinator that may make me decommit. There's nothing to keep me from recommitting, but I think it'd only be prudent to reopen my recruitment in case I have no interest in playing for a new offensive coordinator or new running backs coach, just so I still have some options there and know what other options are still open to me. I frankly think it was a smart move on his part.

If I'm CPR and my choice is keeping my word with a new OC to maintain it as confidential until he completes his bowl game, or to try to help keep the interest of an 18 year old running back prospect I'm going to go with the OC. In my opinion we've had plenty of solid running backs come through the last few years and the production hasn't happened. The missing piece isn't a three star running back, the missing piece is something on the coaching staff. Sad if you lose a good one from this class, but you have to stop the bleeding first.
 

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It is much more likely that no replacement has been chosen yet. There are no big secrets when it comes to a hire like this, especially this day and age. I imagine we will know who the finalists are eventually, and find out who the new OC ultimately is the morning of his announcement, just like you would expect in a high profile position like this.
 

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U hawk fans need to give it up. Rhoads isnt going anywhere... too bad for you.


No, it's not. But here's a trend:

6
7
7
7
9

That's a trend. And it isn't a good one. The program has 1 winning season in 5 under CPR. It was his first season and to achieve that winning season it required a 1 point win over a bad Tim Brewster coached Minnesota team. His conference record is also progressively worse and his conference winning % in 5 seasons is 33%. None of that adds up to job security.

On the plus side, there's not a lot of job security in college football coaching, anyway.
 

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