not necessarily...do we know if those other conditions were on admission or after Covid infection?
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not necessarily...do we know if those other conditions were on admission or after Covid infection?
Then there would be no deaths attributable to COVID-19.
These promising coronavirus treatments are saving lifes
These promising coronavirus treatments are saving lives
Though no single drug is a “game-changer,” medications and improved standard care seem to be reducing death rates.www.nationalgeographic.com
Can you give a super short synopsis? (behind a paywall)
I believe their capacity levels are normal.
kcbob79clone
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I try not to post anything that is behind a pay wall and this article is not, although it does require a free account. This paragraph is a good summary.
"Uncertain though it still may be, knowledge of how the coronavirus works and how to fight it is slowly, surely accreting. Eight months into the pandemic, doctors are gaining a better handle on how to treat the disease. Some therapies are brand-new medications, while others are common medical staples previously shown in clinical trials to be safe and effective for different ailments. Other improvements have come from subtle changes to standard care. All of it, bit by bit, is saving lives."
Theyre doing fine. They haven’t seen a big surge of in patients, mainly due to the demographic of those testing positive.
kcbob79clone
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Minnesota reported it's 2nd highest single day positive cases but the Star Trib put this "positive" spin on so I'm going with it fitting the thread. 
Even so, the rate of Minnesota’s recent case growth is slower than in the bordering states of Iowa and North and South Dakota, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. That data shows COVID-19 cases growing at a faster rate in those states than anywhere else in the country in recent days.
kcbob79clone
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While the midwest is dealing with increased case California is looking to repopen. 8 months into the coronavirus crisis we are still learning a lot.
www.nbclosangeles.com
With Improving Virus Data, California Looks to Reopen Again
California is poised to take another halting step toward normalcy with Gov. Gavin Newsom expected to announce plans for reopening businesses that were shuttered in July amid soaring coronavirus cases and hospitalizations. In anticipation of the Democratic governor’s announcement Friday, there...
www.nbclosangeles.com
Use your brain. Its Occam's razor here. There's a large increase in these things over normal. Unless there is suddenly also an epidemic of these things that is completely separate from covid which would be really weird for both to be happening at the same time, these things are caused by covid.
I think it will be interesting after this settles down to see all the studies done to review how this was all recorded. Important to get it more consistent across the whole country for decisions to be made next time.
I wonder what increase in the overall death rate occurs in the US during 2020, if any?
I wonder what increase in the overall death rate occurs in the US during 2020, if any?
kcbob79clone
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Come on man, I am only pointing out that it is ridiculous to say that every case, 100% without a doubt, irrefutable, indisputable, undeniable, unquestionable, incontroverible, that EVERY death was absolutely caused by Covid-19. Key term in Occam's Razor (the simplest explanantion is most LIKELY the right one) is therefore not irrefutable, just a preference for simplicity.
Another rational, simple explanation is that one part of what makes covid dangerous is that is picks off those who were struggling with other illnesses but would have likely survived without the added factor of COVID-19.
I don't know that we have the data to say what the actual situation is, but it seems logical to say that some of these additional illnesses were complications of COVID, while others were pre-existing conditions exacerbated by COVID.
Either way, the idea that COVID isn't dangerous because only 6% of COVID deaths were from COVID only is bogus. I think the positive news out of this is that maybe one way to help make things better is to try to treat or prevent those other conditions. One of the reasons people believe Japan has done relatively well is widespread vaccination against pneumonia, reducing damage from COVID induced pneumonia. I'm not sure if this was proven one way or another, but is an interesting idea.
I asked that right away, how many people who are concerned about Covid got their pneumonia shot? Nobody answered that. That is one big way to help fight off Covid for those high risk or even concerned people.
The current pneumonia vaccine protects against bacterial pneumonia only, so it would have no effect on viral pneumoniae. The differences between the US and Japan are probably mostly attributable to the difference in overall general health, especially obesity.
Thanks for posting, a lot of good analysis. It is very interesting that they have been doing this same analysis to monitor the Flu deaths over the years. I will be interested to see what this same analysis shows when we look at a longer period (maybe one year period with the virus).
CDC has charts of the excess deaths online going back three years. Here's USA weekly. Last period of "excess" was January 2018 which was the worst flu season in a decade but still produced way less excess deaths than this spring/summer. January this year and last were within norms.
The local school nurse who retired at the end of last year was talking about the state requiring flu tracking. They had to report to the state when they hit 12% of the student population as probable cases. I know last year they got close but have never hit that high of a number.
She didn't know what would happen, they just had to report and they never hit it. This last winter she said they were close, but didn't get there. I know my wife said she had a 6-7 kids out of 20 gone at one point from flu, but they are attached to the HS and they don't get as many stay at homes as elementary does.
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