Cm'n man, if the refs did a decent job there would not be a problem. We had two D team set of refs (KU mens/OSU gals) until last night. Removing courtside seats would not have changed the disgust at the impotent clown calls made.
Oklahoma St. vs. Iowa State
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Why is that, could it be because you do not sit there? I have no problem with them and as far as behavior of fans and officials, I watched an Oklahoma game on TV and one of their fans was standing a large part of the game and was not asked to leave. As a former official told me unless you are threatened you have to ignore comments.
Went to a coffee meeting in Ames Friday morning, the subject of which was Referees charting, put on by Herb Harmison, father of former Ames high and ISU standout Chuck Harmison, and Charles Knicker. both are former ISU standout professors, who have combined Herb's computer expertise and Chuck's engineering charting program ideas. They have been charting referees since back in the Big 8 days, having had a meeting to share their findings with the then Big 8 referees. They indicated to the Big 8 referees that they were not out to stone any referees but just to show their tendancies in calling fouls. The Big 12 office is fully aware of what they have done and other schools have come to Ames to inquire of their expertise.
They chart only all the ISU Mens home games as I don't remember them also doing the women's games but maybe they do. This is a hobby not a business at this time and the travel cost for 2-3 people to chart away games is not feasible. There are 2-3 person charting at each home game from different angles and then they sit down to analyse things like which exact refereee call the foul, where was he on the court, the court being devided into 6 or 8 sections around the basket, what kind of foul was it, all aspects of the fouls is charted.
The bottom line of this referee tendancies research and analysis was this: Charles ask the group if anyone here knows why Burt Smith didn't call the charging foul against KU in the final seconds of the game? Because Smith knew KU would lose and he wasn't about to let that happen. Their computer analysis showed that the more major team does not have critical calls made against them that would cause them to lose. Of course, we saw the game and all agreed
Also found out referees are indeed independent contractors, hired by Curtis Shaw, and assigned to particular games during the season. That explains why Tom O'Neil was still officiating the Oklahome game on Wed, the 6th, he had already been assigned to that game, but supposedly he and Burt Smith are done in future Big 12 seasons. All referees performance is viewed during every game a by person asigned to review their performance by either Curtis Shaw's office or the big 12. I forgot to ask that question. I do know 2of the locals who do the reviewing of the referee's performance that used to sit in the SE corner of the parquet walkway at the top with a table for them to spread out their papers. They have moved and I won't disclose where they are now.
Referee are also paid $2200 to $2600 per game officiated now and all their travel, per deim and income comes out of that. In the old days were told they were paid a flat fee and the travel and per deim were paid for seperately.
Referee are also paid $2200 to $2600 per game officiated now and all their travel, per deim and income comes out of that. In the old days were told they were paid a flat fee and the travel and per deim were paid for seperately.
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