***Official portal tracker thread***

[Stevetasker]

No, I'm not surprised you don't know how to read.

It went right over your head.

 

[cyclone1209]

Colorado has transfer portal issues. Most are leaving in pursuit of more money. We got spoiled in the Matt Campbell era as ISU often retained players for less money due to culture and coaching staff. Let's hope Jimmy Rogers can continue on that track.

Insider reveals biggest reason behind Colorado's transfer portal mass exodus

I also think there's a big variance in the type of knucklehead that commits to Deion and the type of recruit that commits to Campbell / ISU.

Colorado has had a huge culture issue for a number of years. Take out Travis Hunter and Sheduer and they've been a pretty awful program. Losing seasons 2 out of 3 years. The guys they get seem to be there more for the bag, glory, and things than actual football reasons.

 

[BCClone]

So I remember people being upset Bolton left, but I thought it was a Bolton not liking what he was told was expected of him?

Is that not true?

Obviously Bolton had the talent to be a starter on TJ’s first team. No chance he was run off for lack of basketball ability.

He was shown the door.

 

[khardbored]

Keep stopping by to check for actual portal news.

Nope. Not yet.

 

[CycloneVet]

**** that.

I’m not naive to the reality of college football today, but this is just classless behavior.

I hope kids are sharing these stories far and wide and the programs doing a lot of this ******* crater and the staff end up out on their asses.

If that’s ISU, so be it.

Every new coach has done this. I guarantee Campbell did. TJ did it. How many of the 2-22 team stayed? It’s reality with a coaching change. Rogers was at least honest with the kid, bluntly yea but why string him along if he didn’t like him?

 

[twincyties]

Is it better for the kid to have that or tell him he has a lot to work on, honor his commitment and then when he’s there tell him he probably will never see the field?

Honestly I would prefer that if it was my kid.

It’s a fair question. Setting my personal feelings aside on this one I honestly see both sides.

Objectively, the fact this kid said “thanks, but no thanks” to several other Power 4 programs, graduated early, and now is back to square one is a really ****** position to be in.

You’re also assuming that (a) Rogers has better players coming in (which is, at best, premature at this point) and (b) he’s not going to earn his way into the field.

On the other hand, yes - it’s going to be an equally ****** position to come in for a coach that has his mind made up before you even have the opportunity to meet in person or workout in front of him.

That said, it’s not as though he’s trapped here if he comes in. Come put the time and work in for a year, see what happens, and be able to transfer out if that’s the route you choose.

 

[CycloneVet]

So I remember people being upset Bolton left, but I thought it was a Bolton not liking what he was told was expected of him?

Is that not true?

Obviously Bolton had the talent to be a starter on TJ’s first team. No chance he was run off for lack of basketball ability.

I have been told TJ shows kids the door pretty frankly.

 

[CycloneVet]

He was shown the door.

So was what’s his name from Pitt

 

[3TrueFans]

Keep stopping by to check for actual portal news.

Nope. Not yet.

Jan 2nd, save the date.

 

[12191987]

You think all those kids left or didn’t show up for a season just decided to walk away?

What do you mean?

Again, I was under the impression kids were being advised about there prospects.

Telling a kid he isn’t going to see playing time for x/y/z reasons on the roster (and wouldn’t get their NIL renewed) ahead of the portal opening is a far cry from forcing a committed kid out after the early signing period.

 

[BadBoi]

It’s a fair question. Setting my personal feelings aside on this one I honestly see both sides.

Objectively, the fact this kid said “thanks, but no thanks” to several other Power 4 programs, graduated early, and now is back to square one is a really ****** position to be in.

You’re also assuming that (a) Rogers has better players coming in (which is, at best, premature at this point) and (b) he’s not going to earn his way into the field.

On the other hand, yes - it’s going to be an equally ****** position to come in for a coach that has his mind made up before you even have the opportunity to meet in person or workout in front of him.

That said, it’s not as though he’s trapped here if he comes in. Come put the time and work in for a year, see what happens, and be able to transfer out if that’s the route you choose.

Ya it's not ideal for an incoming coach. But there's also 85 open spots to fill. To turn a kids away through no fault of their own and without a chance to prove their worth is wrong.

 

[3TrueFans]

Ya it's not ideal for an incoming coach. But there's also 85 open spots to fill. To turn a kids away through no fault of their own and without a chance to prove their worth is wrong.

Is it better to keep them around even though the coach clearly knows they aren’t interested?

 

[twincyties]

Ya it's not ideal for an incoming coach. But there's also 85 open spots to fill. To turn a kids away through no fault of their own and without a chance to prove their worth is wrong.

Again, trying to remain objective here, I’m kind of in “wait and see” mode.

If Rogers pulls in equal or better talent than what we’re losing - as a fan - I’m like “okay, this makes more sense now”.

If he’s pulling in all guys that were FCS or G5 caliber recruits it’s going to look different.

 

[BCClone]

What do you mean?

Again, I was under the impression kids were being advised about there prospects.

Telling a kid he isn’t going to see playing time for x/y/z reasons on the roster (and wouldn’t get their NIL renewed) ahead of the portal opening is a far cry from forcing a committed kid out after the early signing period.

There is still another signing period and he still has ability to talk to teams. If he was sat on a bench and basically told to shag punts, it would be tougher to latch on to a good team. If the kid can make close to 6 figures a year or so, he won’t have trouble landing at another solid school.

 

[cyatheart]

I have been told TJ shows kids the door pretty frankly.

They just did it with the kid from Austin, Texas. It happens.

 

[rochclone]

What really rubbed him and his family the wrong way was how blunt it was. No details, no "here are some things you should work on as a young player", no apology, nothing. Basically "we want to go a different direction and we'll email you the papers to sign".

I agree, not a great look.

From what I have heard from SDSU sources, this is Rodgers in a nutshell. If he wins it will be fine, but he is going to struggle with the media and fans compared to Campbell.

 

[BadBoi]

Is it better to keep them around even though the coach clearly knows they aren’t interested?

Ya? You obviously have to give them an opportunity.

 

[12191987]

I have been told TJ shows kids the door pretty frankly.

But what does that mean?

Recruiting over kids, etc has happened forever.

Again, very different if it is frankly telling a kid they’re never going to see the floor for whatever reason. If the kid has attitude issues it is also fair to call it out, just like it is fair to dismiss a player.

Both the timing and level of respect shown here sound like they’re very, very different.

A kid wasn’t even given the chance that was promised him, and very likely lost out on the best alternative options he may have had because of when it happened. Worse still, it sounds like it was not handled with the level of respect/tact that the circumstances demanded.

 

[3TrueFans]

Ya? You obviously have to give them an opportunity.

Have to?

Ok they give them the opportunity, coach confirms they don’t fit which they already suspected, now the player has wasted a year of eligibility and wasted a roster spot.

 

[twincyties]

From what I have heard from SDSU sources, this is Rodgers in a nutshell. If he wins it will be fine, but he is going to struggle with the media and fans compared to Campbell.

I’ve heard the same from people really plugged into the FCS scene - particularly in the Dakotas. I take with a grain of salt, of course.

The fact that the GM made this call and not Rogers is what irks me personally. I know the guy is busy as f**k right now and maybe I’m just “old school”, but I’m very much a “pick up the phone and make the call yourself” kind of guy.

It’s not as though there were a hundred kids to call.