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There are plenty of rumors surrounding Reed and his family - some say he was abused mentally and physically as a kid.

Who knows - no one close enough to the situation seems to want to talk about it. He hardly even plays practice rounds with other players. He’s a loner and has been since he was a kid.

I think the big problem with him is he absolutely refuses to own up to any of it or talk about it. It seems like if you just spill it and take that hit, it'll go away. He and his wife won't say a word about it outside of a couple social media hits which have been debunked by people without really anything to gain. If you stole something or tried to cheat in a qualifying round when you were 19 or whatever, people aren't going to hold that against you forever unless you let the other 100 stories fester as well and never address anything. He's interesting and he will make the game better in the same way that Bubba Watson does. There needs to be a heel of some sort.
 
Reed seems like he doesn't associate with anyone besides his wife's family. His caddy is his brother-in-law and he doesn't have any friends on the tour. Other golfers don't really talk to him so they don't know him very well.

There was a Deadspin article from a couple years ago where his teammates said he was arrogant. He would introduce himself saying "Hi, I am Patrick Reed and I'm going to kick the **** out of you". There is a thin line between confidence and cockiness.

To me, he seems like a younger Shooter McGavin.
 
That was not a bad performance by Tiger at all considering where he's been the last couple of years
Considering where he's been it was just fine. I still can't believe people bet on him to win at those terrible odds. Complete idiots.
 
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Considering where he's been it was just fine. I still can't believe people bet on him to win at those terrible odds. Complete idiots.

Based on performance this year, I thought he was probably somewhere among the top 10 actual playing favorites and throwing some money down on him when he was 100:1 or 50:1 looked like a pretty solid choice.
 
I think the big problem with him is he absolutely refuses to own up to any of it or talk about it. It seems like if you just spill it and take that hit, it'll go away. He and his wife won't say a word about it outside of a couple social media hits which have been debunked by people without really anything to gain. If you stole something or tried to cheat in a qualifying round when you were 19 or whatever, people aren't going to hold that against you forever unless you let the other 100 stories fester as well and never address anything. He's interesting and he will make the game better in the same way that Bubba Watson does. There needs to be a heel of some sort.

Oh I wish he would address the situation and what not, just don’t think that’ll ever happen. I mean, his wife had his parents kicked out of a damn tournament. Insane. There are plenty of rumors that she is a nutcase - but it’s all just rumors.
 
Reed seems like he doesn't associate with anyone besides his wife's family. His caddy is his brother-in-law and he doesn't have any friends on the tour. Other golfers don't really talk to him so they don't know him very well.

There was a Deadspin article from a couple years ago where his teammates said he was arrogant. He would introduce himself saying "Hi, I am Patrick Reed and I'm going to kick the **** out of you". There is a thin line between confidence and cockiness.

To me, he seems like a younger Shooter McGavin.

I find that interesting because that kind of "swagger" is something we revere in other sports. Whether it's Tom Brady in football or MJ, Kobe, Lebron in basketball, there's something people usually like about a guy who talks **** and backs it up. But in golf that all seems absurd.
 
I find that interesting because that kind of "swagger" is something we revere in other sports. Whether it's Tom Brady in football or MJ, Kobe, Lebron in basketball, there's something people usually like about a guy who talks **** and backs it up. But in golf that all seems absurd.

I think it's the way he does it. He just seems so smug. I don't really know how to characterize it because there's a certain smugness to Rory too and he'll talk ****. He's proven it to a much larger extent though. I also don't think people like a guy who talks a bunch of **** when they have the background Reed has. Like I said, I think he'd get rid of a lot of this opinion if he just owned up to some stuff. Someone wrote something after the Ryder Cup last year about how Rory and Reed are so clearly not on the same level but Rory seems to know it and Reed doesn't.
 
Based on performance this year, I thought he was probably somewhere among the top 10 actual playing favorites and throwing some money down on him when he was 100:1 or 50:1 looked like a pretty solid choice.
I'm talking about betting on him when he was one of the favorites. It was well below 50:1 at that point. Those people should be punched.
 
I'm talking about betting on him when he was one of the favorites. It was well below 50:1 at that point. Those people should be punched.

Eh, I guess I don't necessarily agree. Three straight top 15s. He came back there in 2015 hurt, having barely played without success and was top 20. I just don't think that was any worse of a bet than any other of the favorites. Personally, I thought the 40:1 bets when he had made one cut and played once were much more insane.
 
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Eh, I guess I don't necessarily agree. Three straight top 15s. He came back there in 2015 hurt, having barely played without success and was top 20. I just don't think that was any worse of a bet than any other of the favorites. Personally, I thought the 40:1 bets when he had made one cut and played once were much more insane.
It got down to 10:1 for Tiger. People betting at that should be pushed in a river because they have fish brains.
 
It got down to 10:1 for Tiger. People betting at that should be pushed in a river because they have fish brains.

I know what the odds were. I wouldn't bet on anyone at 10:1 but there have been a lot of guys right at that throughout the year. How many guys had made a better case for those odds to that point? Maybe Spieth? Certainly not DJ. Maybe Rory?
 
Anybody hear Reed on the Dan Patrick Show this morning? They stayed away from any controversial questions but he came off to be a decent dude. Maybe a little weird, but not unlikable.
 
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Anybody hear Reed on the Dan Patrick Show this morning? They stayed away from any controversial questions but he came off to be a decent dude. Maybe a little weird, but not unlikable.

And I think that's part of his problem. I've said it a million times. If he'd just say he made some mistakes when he was a young and stupid and he's a different person, I think people would come around. Of course, when you hear of a guy being okay with his wife kicking his parents out of golf tournaments, there's probably a ceiling. I've never had a problem with the things he says. It's what he refuses to just acknowledge and he's had numerous safe opportunities to do so.
 
A friend of mine went to school with one of the famous personalities at the golf channel. He didn’t much nice to say about him, for what that’s worth.
 
A friend of mine went to school with one of the famous personalities at the golf channel. He didn’t much nice to say about him, for what that’s worth.

No one from Brandel's past has much nice to say about him. I find him entertaining. The guy knows a lot and is right more than he's wrong. He's not afraid to mix it up and he doesn't usually back down. He's one of the few guys in golf media who is critical but also fair and he doesn't pick a lot of low hanging fruit.
 
Anybody hear Reed on the Dan Patrick Show this morning? They stayed away from any controversial questions but he came off to be a decent dude. Maybe a little weird, but not unlikable.

I’m more of a Reed fan than not. People judging others for family matters is dumb. It’s nobodies business what happened between him and his family and I respect him for not dragging it out into the public eye. I can’t imagine the pressure that gets put on these guys at a young age to have such discipline and can see how that causes some animosity in the family. Dude just puts his head down and plays golf. I can respect that.

Also, I’m not going to judge someone for making a mistake like he did in college unless it’s a pattern when they get older. If I had the trajectory and money some of these guys had in their early 20s, I probably would have had an inflated ego too. It’s only a problem when it follows them into adulthood.
 
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