***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

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What better way to hide how bad the conference is than to limit the number of OOC opportunities against other major conferences. 10 conference games + your typical 1 FCS game leaves 1 game open.... and thats if they opt to use that against another bcs team.

The MAC has given them enough troubles lately, they may need to consider a 12 game schedule.
 
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An alliance doesn’t put additional money in the pockets of either conference since both of their T1 & T2 rights are tied up in long-term contracts.


Such a scheduling alliance has zero effect on the bottom line.

And for ACC fans they annoying question persists: Why did Swofford reach out to Bowlsby? Most I spoke to yesterday about the move viewed it as an act of desperation by the ACC.
According to my sources in the Big 10 the AAU status is still a big deal as federal research money is one of the primary factors in the Big 10 appealing to ACC schools, but Jim Delany believes a school, given the proper resources, mentorship and motivation can raise itself up to AAU standards and he is willing to consider offering schools without AAU status who have a viable plan to achieve the designation in the near future.
 
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The scheduling alliance is probably all a smoke screen. When was the last time something a conference commissioner spoke openly about came to be in regards to conference realignment?
 
I'm not buying the company line right now. "We'll do a scheduling alliance w/ the ACC, unless they get picked apart" doesn't sound assuring to me. We're on an island in our conference, I hate to be in constant fear of our place (GoR? Fine for the next 8-10 years, then it's back to the 2011 or 2012 summer fun...)

Is this one of those cases where, when the B1G or SEC picks off a couple of ACC schools, the Big 12 can say, "See? We tried, but with the changing landscape we're inviting..."? How long until either or both the B1G/SEC move past 14? Isn't 14 a scheduling nightmare?
 
In general I would agree, but in regards to the quotes Wesley posted, those seem pretty logical.

There are millions of people out there who can fling logical quotes at the wall and see what sticks; it doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. I could say that, on 14 December of this year, it will snow in Philadelphia...if it happens, it's nothing more than a lucky guess. That sums up the Dude and his continuous stream of bull ****.

Who are his "sources"? Do any of his claims get cross-verified by other bloggers/writers/etc.? He's a false prophet...just some guy who claims to be important and uses the internet to perpetuate a his myth of legitimacy. He's the journalistic equivalent of a doctor shilling out ***** enhancement pills on late-night television. I loathe the guy.
 
Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the ACC sign a longterm GoR which would kind of screw over the Big Ten and SEC into a scheduling nightmare for several years.

Plus, we can all laugh at the Big Ten with Rutgers and Maryland.
 
Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the ACC sign a longterm GoR which would kind of screw over the Big Ten and SEC into a scheduling nightmare for several years.

Plus, we can all laugh at the Big Ten with Rutgers and Maryland.

I've wondered why the ACC didn't go hard for the GoR right after they grabbed Pitt and Cuse. Maybe they were waiting on a big payday that didn't materialize? Isn't that the motivation for UMD, $$$? (I know it's everyone's motivation in realignment, just seem to remember the numbers thrown around for UMD's justification were big...)

Who has a GoR besides the Big 12? I seem to remember B1G and PAC12, but SEC doesn't have one or need it, is that right?
 
I've wondered why the ACC didn't go hard for the GoR right after they grabbed Pitt and Cuse. Maybe they were waiting on a big payday that didn't materialize? Isn't that the motivation for UMD, $$$? (I know it's everyone's motivation in realignment, just seem to remember the numbers thrown around for UMD's justification were big...)

Who has a GoR besides the Big 12? I seem to remember B1G and PAC12, but SEC doesn't have one or need it, is that right?


B1G and Pac 12 have full GoR. Big 12 has GoR for 1st and 2nd tier media rights. 3rd tier media rights are kept by the schools.

SEC and ACC don't have anything.
 
There are millions of people out there who can fling logical quotes at the wall and see what sticks; it doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. I could say that, on 14 December of this year, it will snow in Philadelphia...if it happens, it's nothing more than a lucky guess. That sums up the Dude and his continuous stream of bull ****.

Who are his "sources"? Do any of his claims get cross-verified by other bloggers/writers/etc.? He's a false prophet...just some guy who claims to be important and uses the internet to perpetuate a his myth of legitimacy. He's the journalistic equivalent of a doctor shilling out ***** enhancement pills on late-night television. I loathe the guy.

Just saying it holds up to the initial sniff test. A lot of the stuff that gets flung around in regards to conference realignment doesn't even get that far.
 
What is the SEC channel?


SEC schools allow the conference to negotiate their 1st and 2nd tier rights as a block, but they still reserve those rights meaning they can take them back and leave the conference at any point.

No one wants to leave the SEC though -- maybe Missouri if the Big Ten came calling.
 
SEC schools allow the conference to negotiate their 1st and 2nd tier rights as a block, but they still reserve those rights meaning they can take them back and leave the conference at any point.

No one wants to leave the SEC though -- maybe Missouri if the Big Ten came calling.
I have wondered if vanderbilt may consider it too for academic reasons. If acc thing doesnt work out have to wonder if big 10 makes a big press on these two. Really they will be the only schools in contiguous states of their footprint available in that scenario. SEC would fix their scheduling problem and only lose one market and am sure their per school take would go up.
 
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I have wondered if vanderbilt may consider it too for academic reasons.

In MHver3's update yesterday on the WVU Scout board, he claimed two schools had been approached over the weekend for B1G membership, one would accept, the other would decline. The rumor associated with that rumor was that the "no" was Vandy and the "yes" was UVa (either Twitter or in that thread, I forget...)

All good entertainment, I'll believe it when it actually happens and I'm watching ISU play football in FL, from the stands, and not in a bowl...
 
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