***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***
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Basically, your TV money belong to the conference regardless of it you actually in the conference. And if you are not in the conference, you don't get a dime. Do I have that right? Trying to tell someone at the ACC school I attend why it is superior to a large buyout.
Correct. Conference owns your TV value regardless of conference affiliation.
That is true for the 1st and 2nd tier rights. Everyone keeps their own 3rd tier. So like if Texas left they would keep the money from their Longhorn Network.
Right, just trying to get through baby steps right now. The VT message board is funny, lots of doom and gloom. Glad to see ISU will probably not be in that boat this time.
Anybody know when the ACC $50 million buy-out goes into effect for Pitt? Pitt's not as flashy as FSU, but adding L'ville and Pitt seems like it would help flesh out the Big 12's eastward expansion, bring somewhat driveable games for us ISU fans, bring back the backyard brawl, and pick up some nice TV real estate. Plus Pitt, as a university, is a much better get, academically, than FSU.
That said, I'd still rather get FSU if the option is available just for recruitment purposes.
That said, I'd still rather get FSU if the option is available just for recruitment purposes.
Cool, thanks guys. I knew it had to do with tv money being forfeited, I just couldn't come up with the acronym. Thanks again!
That just sounds like someone who was 100% convinced that the 4 16-team superconferences were going to be the Big 10, ACC, SEC, and Pac 16, brining about the imminent destruction of the Big 12, and was about as far wrong in throwing **** at the wall as one could get. The Big 12 not only is surviving, but is thriving. The Pac 12 has no shot at getting to 16 unless it invites MWC teams or jumps the shark even worse than adding Texas and Oklahoma would have. And the ACC, the conference that once and for all was to prove itself superior to the Big East in every single way, is now only going to do so because it is going to have to become what the Big East was just to survive Confrageddon at all.
Essentially, this guy that Bevo is featuring is so butthurt he's now resorting to throwing his own diarrhea at the wall just because he likes the color brown.
My turn with the carving knife:
Suppose the Big 12 were of the mindset to throw a life line to the ACC and offer to bring 6 teams over as a block to allow them to maintain some cultural connectivity to one another. Which six ACC teams would be taken if they could have any of those left? In order from greatest football value to the least...
FSU
VT
Clemson
GT
UNC
NCSU
This would leave Wake, Duke, UVA, Miami, Syracuse, BC, and Pitt to merge with Louisville, UConn, Temple, Cincy, and South Florida as the remnants of those two leagues. While a clear step down, it seems like a group that belongs together football-wise. Add in Georgetown, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence, Marquette, and St. Johns in basketball and you have a significant product to sell to TV.
Suppose the Big 12 were of the mindset to throw a life line to the ACC and offer to bring 6 teams over as a block to allow them to maintain some cultural connectivity to one another. Which six ACC teams would be taken if they could have any of those left? In order from greatest football value to the least...
FSU
VT
Clemson
GT
UNC
NCSU
This would leave Wake, Duke, UVA, Miami, Syracuse, BC, and Pitt to merge with Louisville, UConn, Temple, Cincy, and South Florida as the remnants of those two leagues. While a clear step down, it seems like a group that belongs together football-wise. Add in Georgetown, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence, Marquette, and St. Johns in basketball and you have a significant product to sell to TV.
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This is the chart of value of ACC football schools showing their relative number of fans according to NY Times blogger Nate Silver. Interesting that the top 6 still available by fan base would not include Florida State....
The big flaw in Silver's methodology (using Google search volume as a proxy for the number of football fans in a media market) is that it assumes fans of each football team have equal access to a computer and the internet. If you've ever been to the Florida panhandle, you'd know this was not the case...some of those yokels wouldn't know what a computer was if you dropped it on the hood of their El Camino. Hence why it looks as if FSU has relatively few fans.
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There were a lot of other questionable things about those numbers the last time they came up too.
Georgia Tech is the real shocker IMO. No chance they are that high, and certainly not double the fanbase of FSU.
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Ya I am sure KU can go without their TV money for 13 years. Where do these dumb *** writers come up with this? Do they think about the situation before they write the article?
Ya I am sure KU can go without their TV money for 13 years. Where do these dumb *** writers come up with this? Do they think about the situation before they write the article?
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