***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

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If the conference were to implode tomorrow, I feel much better than I did back then.

Probably depends on the circumstances, but I don't know if I would.

Let's say (for the sake of argument) that Texas, Tech, OU, and OSU are headed to the Pac to create a Pac-16.

Our best-case scenario is probably for the other 6 schools to stick together and peel off some others to start a new conference, but I'm not sure about the likelihood of that. Kansas would be attractive to the Big Ten, and West Virginia may also be to the ACC.

Kansas and UConn could be #15 and #16 for the Big Ten. West Virginia and another of the AAC schools could be the same for the ACC.

ISU, KSU, BU, and TCU might end up in a 16-team AAC, playing the likes of SMU, Memphis, East Carolina, etc. in conference games. Or, if we could pull it off, we could just pick the 8 best schools out of the AAC and destroy that conference while still making our own. But we may lack the leverage to pull that off.

Of course - all speculation - thank God it won't come to that. (Hopefully.)
 
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I'm out of the loop in terms of the "inside skinny" of what was on the table during the heat of re-alignment, but I do remember lot's of fear about what might happen to ISU if the Big 12 imploded. Remember, it wasn't just a question of "which conference should we join?" The other conferences were in flux as well. And timing was everything. I'm inviting a b-slap here, but can anyone help me out while I look into pages and pages O' posts?

No doubt, but that guy was wrong. And am sick of the peiple who acr like ISU has nothing to offer.
 
No doubt, but that guy was wrong. And am sick of the peiple who acr like ISU has nothing to offer.

Seriously, I don't know who abused these people during their childhood's but Iowa State's resume isn't that of anything but a top tier program. We're not getting demoted.
 
I agree with your last sentence whole-heartedly. But the one in bold is what scared the hell out of my back then. I still have various Google-Earth maps I was making for all of the possible landing spots for ISU, and then for the possible additions to the Big 12.

I did too and still fear the possibility. But many that act like we are lucky or not deserving just get under my skin (mainly hawk fans saying).
 
Probably depends on the circumstances, but I don't know if I would.

Let's say (for the sake of argument) that Texas, Tech, OU, and OSU are headed to the Pac to create a Pac-16.

Our best-case scenario is probably for the other 6 schools to stick together and peel off some others to start a new conference, but I'm not sure about the likelihood of that. Kansas would be attractive to the Big Ten, and West Virginia may also be to the ACC.

Kansas and UConn could be #15 and #16 for the Big Ten. West Virginia and another of the AAC schools could be the same for the ACC.

ISU, KSU, BU, and TCU might end up in a 16-team AAC, playing the likes of SMU, Memphis, East Carolina, etc. in conference games. Or, if we could pull it off, we could just pick the 8 best schools out of the AAC and destroy that conference while still making our own. But we may lack the leverage to pull that off.

Of course - all speculation - thank God it won't come to that. (Hopefully.)

Uconn isnt going to the big 10. They arent good enough academically for the acc they arent good enough for the Big 10. In that scenario I think isu to the B1G mor likely should acc stick together.
 
In that scenario I think isu to the B1G mor likely should acc stick together.

I think it would be one of the two, and UConn would bring a handful of TVs for the BTN while ISU adds none.

EDIT: I thought UConn was AAU but I was apparently wrong. I guess that adds some clout for ISU in that scenario.
 
Uconn isnt going to the big 10. They arent good enough academically for the acc they arent good enough for the Big 10. In that scenario I think isu to the B1G mor likely should acc stick together.

Perhaps but ISU will never be in the B1G. Ever. And we don't need to be...
 
Really don't see anybody leaving the Big 12. Texas, OU and KU all have TV deals and I'm sure others will follow. That's an extra income that's not allowed in the other conferences. Plus everybody wants to maintain their southern exposure and they wouldn't get that in the ACC or the Big 10.
 
Really don't see anybody leaving the Big 12. Texas, OU and KU all have TV deals and I'm sure others will follow. That's an extra income that's not allowed in the other conferences. Plus everybody wants to maintain their southern exposure and they wouldn't get that in the ACC or the Big 10.

After the GOR if the B1G offers KU they'll make the move before whoever their president is at the time can hang up the phone. And if I were you I'd be ****** if they didn't.
 
A lot will change in the next 10 years...we are already seeing many schools in the SEC complain about the 14 team format, and now even some in the B1G getting grumpy about it. (For example Iowa's home schedule in 2015). By the time our grant of rights is up many might be fed up and looking to go to smaller leagues.

The cable bubble might finally bust in 10 years...by then the B1G might look to add closer schools to save on costs now that they don't make as much money.
 
Perhaps but ISU will never be in the B1G. Ever. And we don't need to be...
Say what? Apparently you've never heard ISU President Leath speak...he talks about why not Iowa State being in the class of Wisconsin, or Illinois, or Penn State...he never talks about ISU someday being in the class of K-State, TTech, or OU. Leath would be thrilled to be in the B1G.
 
Say what? Apparently you've never heard ISU President Leath speak...he talks about why not Iowa State being in the class of Wisconsin, or Illinois, or Penn State...he never talks about ISU someday being in the class of K-State, TTech, or OU. Leath would be thrilled to be in the B1G.

Well, since you cried to a mod I'll rephrase;

Cal and Cornell will never be in the Big Ten Conference and they're not on the level of TTU & KSU. Iowa State will never be in the Big Ten Conference. Not an indictment of the institution, which I have faith will continue to get stronger on Leath's watch.
 
Rumor from the Dude. If true, true, this could be really interesting...

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I'm told by a high-level ESPN contact that Pitt, Duke and Wake have told the ACC they would not play D4 football.

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It's unclear if GT would or not.

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Getting word today that there are several schools in the ACC that are vehemently against D4 because they can't afford the extra expenditures
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If this comes to fruition, could this be why there were scheduling aliance conversations between the BIG12 and ACC? Could the BIG12 take ACC teams as football only partners? Since the ACC stands to not make as much as the other big 4 conferences, could they slowly be choked out as the "Division 4" idea moves on through the years?
 
Rumor from the Dude. If true, true, this could be really interesting...

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‏@theDudeofWV 2m
I'm told by a high-level ESPN contact that Pitt, Duke and Wake have told the ACC they would not play D4 football.

@theDudeofWV 2m
It's unclear if GT would or not.

@MHver3 51s
Getting word today that there are several schools in the ACC that are vehemently against D4 because they can't afford the extra expenditures
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If this comes to fruition, could this be why there were scheduling aliance conversations between the BIG12 and ACC? Could the BIG12 take ACC teams as football only partners? Since the ACC stands to not make as much as the other big 4 conferences, could they slowly be choked out as the "Division 4" idea moves on through the years?

:SLEEP:
 
after NDSU beats KState & ISU in 2014 like they beat KU 2 years ago, can we join your Big 12? land grant, good academics OIL MONEY!!
 
after NDSU beats KState & ISU in 2014 like they beat KU 2 years ago, can we join your Big 12? land grant, good academics OIL MONEY!!

You mean like how NDSU beat ISU back in 2009?

If NDSU wants a piece of ISU, in the words of Scott Hall:

[video=youtube;1iAdw2tXnp8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iAdw2tXnp8[/video]
 
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