Cincy makes me vomit. If we are gonna add an ex big east school it should be UCONN. That makes me puke too but at least they are a flagship.
***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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I, too, think the extended time zone could have its advantages, for that reason.
Here's a scathing take from Dodd at CBS.
Big 12 expansion: Public pandering by AAC schools is borderline embarrassing
Big 12 expansion: Public pandering by AAC schools is borderline embarrassing
Of course academics matter to admissions, but this is about sports and tv, not admissions. I evaluated ISU based on the academic programs at ISU. It doesn't matter that they play football games against community colleges lime KSU and TTU. Swapping ATM for TCU on the athletics schedule doesn't do squat to our academics, they are two totally separate entities. If this actually made a difference we would schedule a bunch of Ivy League schools each year to raise our profile.
The idea that even the perception of our engineering program would change based on who our opponent is at Jack Trice next Saturday is nuts. College sports are a big deal to people on this board, but the majority of the general public still doesn't follow it closely.
You're calling R1 research universities community colleges? Wow.
Also, it's not what schools a team plays during any given season's schedule. It's about who that university associates with. Even if ISU did play an ivy league school for a football game, they wouldn't be associated with each other because ISU isn't a member of the ivy league. ISU will, however, be associated with the rest of the Big 12 members, whoever they are/will be. That's why the academic stature of the conference matters. Also, it's not just about the academic stature of the college of engineering, it's the entire university. Since it's university presidents that vote, I'd suggest you at least try to think like a university president. Sports are only one component of many in running a university.
After spending almost six years at NCSU and having first hand experience with ECU fans, I'd definitely be against ECU. That TV market is already saturated with ACC and SEC programming. I don't see ECU bringing many TVs. ECU doesn't have much for academic chops. Basically if you get rejected from NCSU or UNC you go to ECU. Plus it's an R2 university. Also, their fans are obnoxious. Lastly, it would not help recruiting in the Big 12 at all. There are eight D1 football teams in North Carolina. Pretty much all of them recruit 95% of their players from outside the state, and the best players go to play for SEC schools anyway. Heck, even the AAC had qualms about letting them join.
It's amusing how much attention this expansion talk is generating.
Although I think the guy in the gallery actually hollered, "I buried Paul."
If the biggest issue is the GOR, not sure I have seen any academic TV programming ever. Academics are obviously on the list, but I would think fairly far down the list after money, money, money, money and money.
Their fans are active. But not annoying. They enjoy and support their teams. I did wirk with the main donor to the football stadium and he is a huge douche.
I'd be okay with this. Adding Houston as a group of four doesn't really hurt for the Texas saturation. They and BYU should add enough cache that UC and Memphis shouldn't hurt. Overall, the footprint gets expanded quite a bit.
I agree. Adding Houston in this scenario doesn't increase the state of Texas voting power. They would still have veto power at 35% of the conference being in Texas, assuming all schools vote the same way. Although I would hope that is not the case.
These are the best choices assuming Colorado & Missouri aren't in play. Swapping Colorado State for one of these schools wouldn't upset me either.
I know there are a lot of UConn & UCF fans out there, but some semblance of geographic sanity would be nice. Big XII has always been heartland culture. Not coastal.
