*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

The Cubs suck, and tbh I'm losing interest in this year's team in a hurry. Thissss close to shifting to football for my interest, big game for us this weekend and the NFL starts up as well. BTW, noticed that Bellinger is posting a mid-800s OPS for the Yanks with 20+ HR and 80+ RBI in late August. Remind me again what the Cubs got for letting him go? What was it, a bucket of warm spit?

I literally can't believe Ricketts re-upped with Jed.
Yup - lost interest over the last month or so and now barely check in to see what the score was that day. I’ll check in a bit more as things get closer to the playoffs to see if they figured things out.
 
It all depends on what Schwarber and Tucker are willing to play for.

The linked article still says Tucker will command around $400M in free agency. I would struggle to invest that much money in a .270 hitter, who might hit 30 HR's and is an average fielder.

Whereas, if Schwarber is looking at a 4-5 year deal with a $45M AAV tops, I'd jump at it. His defense isn't an issue because he's 100% DH.

Adding Schwarber forces the Cubs to play hardball with Happ or Suzuki this winter. Both can't be starters with the Cubs next year regardless, that story has played out the last few years and isn't going to age any better in 2026. Both would waive their NTC if they knew they would be platoon players going into FA. It also opens a path for Caissie and Alcantara to be part of a young OF rotation of: PCA, Alcantara, Caissie and Happ or Suzuki.

Saving money on Tucker and Happ or Suzuki then allows the Cubs to make a run on a top-line starter, improved relief staff and sign a legitimate platoon 1B.

This is 100% what the Cubs SHOULD do but won’t happen with the cheap ass ownership.

I don’t believe the Cubs have every give a single player $25+ mil per year - they aren’t going to do it twice next year.
 
This is 100% what the Cubs SHOULD do but won’t happen with the cheap ass ownership.

I don’t believe the Cubs have every give a single player $25+ mil per year - they aren’t going to do it twice next year.
In defense of not…they didn’t get a ton out of Soriano or Heyward. Certainly not what was hoped. I guess the counter argument is pay a bunch of guys more and maybe the odds of hitting on a good one are better.

I don’t hate the idea of having Schwarber the way this is presented though. Makes a lot more sense than I was thinking it did.
 
In defense of not…they didn’t get a ton out of Soriano or Heyward. Certainly not what was hoped. I guess the counter argument is pay a bunch of guys more and maybe the odds of hitting on a good one are better.

I don’t hate the idea of having Schwarber the way this is presented though. Makes a lot more sense than I was thinking it did.

They won’t all pan out but the Cubs aren’t even trying. They refuse to spend like a real big market team.

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I don't know what to think of this upcoming Rockies series at Coors field. Is it an opportunity for the Cubs bats to come alive. Or maybe the bats pop a bit, but not enough to keep up with Rockies bats. The HR's given up by Cub pitchers in SF gives me pause.
 
They won’t all pan out but the Cubs aren’t even trying. They refuse to spend like a real big market team.

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Interesting info. Would love to see further break-out on revenue. It amazes me the revenue differences between teams in the same towns:
  • NY - Yankees $728M vs. Mets $444M
  • Chi - Cubs $584M vs. White Sox $277M
  • LA - Dodgers $752 vs. Angels $410
I don't have an issue with the Cubs not being in the Yankee, Dodger, Philly stratosphere. But there is no reason the Cubs aren't spending in the 45-50% range. That would be the Cubs around #5 in payroll and around $80M more than they currently spend.

I don't understand the payroll tax calculation. Seems like it should be closer to the median spend, around 47%. My guess is that will be a hot button for players with their 2027 contract.
 
Interesting info. Would love to see further break-out on revenue. It amazes me the revenue differences between teams in the same towns:
  • NY - Yankees $728M vs. Mets $444M
  • Chi - Cubs $584M vs. White Sox $277M
  • LA - Dodgers $752 vs. Angels $410
I don't have an issue with the Cubs not being in the Yankee, Dodger, Philly stratosphere. But there is no reason the Cubs aren't spending in the 45-50% range. That would be the Cubs around #5 in payroll and around $80M more than they currently spend.

I don't understand the payroll tax calculation. Seems like it should be closer to the median spend, around 47%. My guess is that will be a hot button for players with their 2027 contract.

What bothers me is the Cubs % spent of revenue when you look at the teams listed directly below them. Those 4 have been awful for a while and that is not company the Cubs should want to be in. Then you look up and look at how much more the in-division teams are spending that have had more consistent success/playoff appearances in recent years. Brewers 4.4% more, Reds 6.2% more, Cardinals 6.5% more. All smaller markets and all significantly less total revenue too. This crap about the Ricketts just breaking even on the Cubs doesn't seem to hold up when you look at these numbers.
 
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What bothers me is the Cubs % spent of revenue when you look at the teams listed directly below them. Those 4 have been awful for a while and that is not company the Cubs should want to be in. Then you look up and look at how much more the in-division teams are spending that have had more consistent success/playoff appearances in recent years. Brewers 4.4% more, Reds 6.2% more, Cardinals 6.5% more. All smaller markets and all significantly less total revenue too. This crap about the Ricketts just breaking even on the Cubs doesn't seem to hold up when you look at these numbers.

If you are “just breaking even” with almost $600 million in revenue and only giving the players $213 million - you run a REALLY crappy business.
 
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If you are “just breaking even” with almost $600 million in revenue and only giving the players $213 million - you run a REALLY crappy business.

That's why when they use that line it's a slap in the face to fans that know this is not the truth. I know they redeveloped a lot of the area around Wrigley and that costs money, but that's more of an investment on the private side by the Ricketts and not an operational cost of the Cubs.
 
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The Cubs suck, and tbh I'm losing interest in this year's team in a hurry. Thissss close to shifting to football for my interest, big game for us this weekend and the NFL starts up as well. BTW, noticed that Bellinger is posting a mid-800s OPS for the Yanks with 20+ HR and 80+ RBI in late August. Remind me again what the Cubs got for letting him go? What was it, a bucket of warm spit?

I literally can't believe Ricketts re-upped with Jed.
We replaced him with a “top 10” player in the MLB
 
What bothers me is the Cubs % spent of revenue when you look at the teams listed directly below them. Those 4 have been awful for a while and that is not company the Cubs should want to be in. Then you look up and look at how much more the in-division teams are spending that have had more consistent success/playoff appearances in recent years. Brewers 4.4% more, Reds 6.2% more, Cardinals 6.5% more. All smaller markets and all significantly less total revenue too. This crap about the Ricketts just breaking even on the Cubs doesn't seem to hold up when you look at these numbers.

The only possibility to explain such a low payroll level vs. revenue is if the Ricketts family incurred a ton of debt to purchase the Cubs and then followed that up with debt to upgrade Wrigley field.

Otherwise, I would agree. It's shameful they aren't willing to have a payroll in the 45-50% range of revenue.