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*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Pharmacy99 said:
We should have seen this coming. Many of our players were performing above their averages, and now they’re regressing to the mean. Instead of settling for Castro, we should have traded for true impact players.
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The season was lost in the offseason, not the deadline. Came into the season with way too many roster holes and it's playing itself out. You had guys play out of their minds early but their true form is coming out now. The deadline is about patching holes not revamping a roster. And this roster needs revamped.
 
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I keep coming back to Nico and Shaw being at the bottom of the order. How much do you have to see of Happ, Kelly, Seiya and Tucker whiffing in the middle of the order? It's not just magically turning around. It's been 6 weeks. Put someone there that can make ******* contact.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
I keep coming back to Nico and Shaw being at the bottom of the order. How much do you have to see of Happ, Kelly, Seiya and Tucker whiffing in the middle of the order? It's not just magically turning around. It's been 6 weeks. Put someone there that can make ******* contact.
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Counsell really likes Kelly, Happ, and Tucker.
 
I don't buy that All-Star break did something to this team. They came out after the All-Star break and took care of Boston who was hot going into the break. The Royals figured something out with this team, and others have followed. Marmol mentioned on the broadcast Sunday night that our base coaches were known to be relaying signs, maybe that is where our offense was coming from and teams figured it out. Scouting happens. We got to figure out a way to get past it.
 
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ProStateCubs said:
They have Pinch Hit Kelly before when he’s on the bench with just 2 catchers but yes you want to make sure it’s late or it’s the last resort. If Tucker doesn’t resign Mo is the starting DH/3rd Catcher. Just feels like they don’t love his defense behind the plate. The 3 catchers plan worked you didn’t lose McGuire. They now don’t have pick between Perez or throwing Mo behind the plate in the Majors this year.
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So are you sitting Happ, Suzuki or Caissie? I know who I would.
 
I really lost faith in Jed when he refused to trade Happ and Contreras in 22. That trade deadline he said people wouldn't pay for him, now this year everybody was to expensive. I get we got a pick which was Wiggins but that's not much for an all star catcher.

Then he signs Happ for some reason I will never understand and we bat him lead off of all things.

I just really want to see guys that make more contact and don't strike out so much and can run. I get Tucker doesn't strike out a ton but he isn't going to be here anyway. Nico and Matt are a good start. Amaya is good to. Maybe PCA can get closer. Happ, bush, Suzuki, PCA...they just all strike out too much. My opinion, I could be wrong, I just think we have to get runners over and get guys in from 3rd way more consistently.

Maybe some of that is Counsel, I don't know.
 
We are 8 games back in the NL Central now, going to take a big hot streak by the Cubs and big cold streak by the Brewers to cut into that at this point and I don't see either happening unfortunately. So now we are going to be scoreboard watching for teams competing for the Wild Card. We are currently 4 games up for the top WC spot which at this point in the season is not really a big lead.

The Dodgers, Padres, Mets, and Reds are the main teams in the mix and all minus the Reds made some good moves at the deadline to bolster their rosters especially the Mets and Padres. The Cubs need to figure it out here soon or its going to be yet another late season swoon and disappointing ending like the last 2 seasons. This roster has more talent than the last 2 seasons so for as much as I also blame Hoyer and the front office for their failures to fill in the holes in the roster even with Ricketts supposed tight purse strings, Mr. $8 mil a year and 2nd highest paid manager in the league Counsell is going to start feeling some heat soon for how he's been managing the hand he's been dealt.
 
Clonefan32 said:
I keep coming back to Nico and Shaw being at the bottom of the order. How much do you have to see of Happ, Kelly, Seiya and Tucker whiffing in the middle of the order? It's not just magically turning around. It's been 6 weeks. Put someone there that can make ******* contact.
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keep PCA out of the top 5 batters also
 
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isucy86 said:
Good point, I had forgotten about the doubleheader rule. Then Sept 1 can bump up to 28.
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cyatheart said:
I really lost faith in Jed when he refused to trade Happ and Contreras in 22. That trade deadline he said people wouldn't pay for him, now this year everybody was to expensive. I get we got a pick which was Wiggins but that's not much for an all star catcher.

Then he signs Happ for some reason I will never understand and we bat him lead off of all things.

I just really want to see guys that make more contact and don't strike out so much and can run. I get Tucker doesn't strike out a ton but he isn't going to be here anyway. Nico and Matt are a good start. Amaya is good to. Maybe PCA can get closer. Happ, bush, Suzuki, PCA...they just all strike out too much. My opinion, I could be wrong, I just think we have to get runners over and get guys in from 3rd way more consistently.

Maybe some of that is Counsel, I don't know.
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He had Contreras traded to Houston for Uriqidy but Dusty nixed it due to Wilson's reputation for being a ****** receiver/game caller.
 
The Cubs have been horrible at situational hitting lately. They were a team in the first half that could explode for 5+ runs in an inning but now they have to find ways to manufacture some in key spots.

They had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and 2, 3, 4 up in the lineup in the Top of the 8th yesterday. All 3 guys struck out when the odds of scoring a run has to be 90% or higher. A Sac fly is a productive out but somehow the last 6 outs for the Cubs yesterday were strikeouts.
 
This is one of the things that annoys me about the computer system we use that tells us what lineup to spit out there.

The 4 hitter is the only bat in the lineup guaranteed to hit with runners on base OR leadoff an inning their first at bat.

I know he has no pop which is non-traditional, but Nico needs to be in the 4 spot.
 
CyState85 said:
The Cubs have been horrible at situational hitting lately. They were a team in the first half that could explode for 5+ runs in an inning but now they have to find ways to manufacture some in key spots.

They had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and 2, 3, 4 up in the lineup in the Top of the 8th yesterday. All 3 guys struck out when the odds of scoring a run has to be 90% or higher. A Sac fly is a productive out but somehow the last 6 outs for the Cubs yesterday were strikeouts.
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Happ and Tucker both kept their usual huge looping swings in balls a foot outside instead of adapting to the situation and trying to put the ball in play. A good contact hitter like Nico would have taken both of those pitches to right field for a 2 run single.

Complete ineptness and lack of situational awareness from veterans and the coaching staff. I don't even know why they have a hitting coach sometimes.
 
If I had any power whatsoever, here’s what I’d be rolling out today:

Tucker, DH
Suzuki, LF
Busch, 1B
Nico, 2B
Caissie, RF
Shaw, 3B
McGuire, C
Swanson, SS
PCA, CF

However, my money would be on we see the same ****.
 
CYdTracked said:
We are 8 games back in the NL Central now, going to take a big hot streak by the Cubs and big cold streak by the Brewers to cut into that at this point and I don't see either happening unfortunately. So now we are going to be scoreboard watching for teams competing for the Wild Card. We are currently 4 games up for the top WC spot which at this point in the season is not really a big lead.

The Dodgers, Padres, Mets, and Reds are the main teams in the mix and all minus the Reds made some good moves at the deadline to bolster their rosters especially the Mets and Padres. The Cubs need to figure it out here soon or its going to be yet another late season swoon and disappointing ending like the last 2 seasons. This roster has more talent than the last 2 seasons so for as much as I also blame Hoyer and the front office for their failures to fill in the holes in the roster even with Ricketts supposed tight purse strings, Mr. $8 mil a year and 2nd highest paid manager in the league Counsell is going to start feeling some heat soon for how he's been managing the hand he's been dealt.
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Only 1/2 game up on the top Wild Card. 4 1/2 up on a wild card spot.
 
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