*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Well you’ve got three - good for you. I see no point. With the big 12, it’s different. We have a vested interest in the conference being strong and making money. I’m ok with every other team in the NL Central being bad. No one’s going to nuke or poach the division…and it makes my life easier.

Well, you poached our coach. Has that made your life being a Cub fan easier?

Anyway......you don't want to be friendly, fine. This will be my last post regardless of your response. And I have only one thing to say:

Game is on at 7:08 tonight. Cubs vs Dodg................oh wait.
 
I can't take anything you say seriously if you continue to compare Kyle Tucker to Tyler Soderstrom.
Other than almost double the strikeout rate, half the walk rate, negative base running value and being a bottom 5 defensive right fielder and being on a terrible team, they're exactly the same player.
 
Rumors were that Mo was untouchable in any deadline deal. If the Cubs think that highly of him, he needs to be the every day DH and trade Suzuki.

I'd lean toward trying to trade Happ. Play Suzuki in RF, Ballesteros at DH and sign a FA in LF.

Sure Happ has a NT clause, but I doubt he's interested in being a platoon outfielder going into his FA year. Happ has shown he's at best a .240 hitter, who will hit 20-25 HR's and is a boom or bust hitter. Bringing back Happ is saying the Cubs FO is OK with being a borderline playoff team.

Happ isn't the problem, But Cubs need to shake up the clubhouse and there are few options to improve the 2026 starting lineup.
 
I'd lean toward trying to trade Happ. Play Suzuki in RF, Ballesteros at DH and sign a FA in LF.

Sure Happ has a NT clause, but I doubt he's interested in being a platoon outfielder going into his FA year. Happ has shown he's at best a .240 hitter, who will hit 20-25 HR's and is a boom or bust hitter. Bringing back Happ is saying the Cubs FO is OK with being a borderline playoff team.

Happ isn't the problem, But Cubs need to shake up the clubhouse and there are few options to improve the 2026 starting lineup.
I don't disagree with anything you said, but Happ ain't going anywhere
 
I can't take anything you say seriously if you continue to compare Kyle Tucker to Tyler Soderstrom.
Soderstrom is only 23 and this was his first full season. He hit for higher BA, more HR and RBI than Tucker this year. The numbers he put up this year are comparable to Tucker’s career averages other than walks.
 
Other than almost double the strikeout rate, half the walk rate, negative base running value and being a bottom 5 defensive right fielder and being on a terrible team, they're exactly the same player.
Soderstrom is LF. Tucker is not a great outfielder either. I don’t care how many times a hitter strikes out as long as he drives in important runs which Tucker failed miserably in the playoffs
 
Soderstrom is only 23 and this was his first full season. He hit for higher BA, more HR and RBI than Tucker this year. The numbers he put up this year are comparable to Tucker’s career averages other than walks.
More HR (barely) and RBI and played half his games in a minor league stadium that was the 2nd most hitter friendly ballpark this season, while Tucker played half his games at a park where the wind was blowing in 80% of the games this year. Tucker also played 32 less games than Soderstrom due to his injuries, which would be my biggest concern signing Tucker to a long contract.

Other fun numbers that you're conveniently leaving out
Walks- Tucker 87, Soderstrom 55
Strikeouts- Tucker 88, Soderstrom 141
Stolen Bases- Tucker 25, Soderstrom 8

Tucker also is much higher in just about every advanced analytical stat but I'm not even going to attempt explaining those to your pea-sized brain for even suggesting they're remotely the same player. Especially when it was one of the worst years of Tucker's career, after an incredible first half that got derailed by another mismanaged injury by our FO in the second half.

Honestly didn't even know this til looking it up but Tucker should say to hell with the Cubs and Wrigley anyway with his staggering home/away splits

Away/Home
BA- .292/.236
OBP- .399/.353
SLG- .524/.395
OPS- .923/.747
HR- 15/7
RBI- 47/26
 
Soderstrom is LF. Tucker is not a great outfielder either. I don’t care how many times a hitter strikes out as long as he drives in important runs which Tucker failed miserably in the playoffs
I was looking up his game logs and there is inexplicably a huge hole for most of September.

Oh that's right, he was out with an injury (after just barely getting right from a broken bone in his hand that started to screw up his swing) for over 3 weeks and had all of 3 games to try to get back in the groove before the playoffs. Of course he wasn't at the top of his game.
 
Would it be nice to go deeper/win it all. Yeah, but we all knew this team was not built for that. They were competitive and fun. I will always remember this year and the day in August that I got to take my son to his first game at Wrigley.
 
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Cubs Fans: WE NEED AN ELITE BAT!

Cubs: Trade for elite bat that was crazy valuable even through injuries

Cubs Fans: HOW DARE YOU EVEN CONSIDER PAYING THAT GUY!?!? CAN I HAVE ANOTHER $20 BEER PLEASE TOMMY!??!
 
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Cubs Fans: WE NEED AN ELITE BAT!

Cubs: Trade for elite bat that was crazy valuable even through injuries

Cubs Fans: HOW DARE YOU EVEN CONSIDER PAYING THAT GUY!?!? CAN I HAVE ANOTHER $20 BEER PLEASE TOMMY!??!
He is not an elite bat. His second half was below his career average but his first half stats were well above his career averages.
 
More HR (barely) and RBI and played half his games in a minor league stadium that was the 2nd most hitter friendly ballpark this season, while Tucker played half his games at a park where the wind was blowing in 80% of the games this year. Tucker also played 32 less games than Soderstrom due to his injuries, which would be my biggest concern signing Tucker to a long contract.

Other fun numbers that you're conveniently leaving out
Walks- Tucker 87, Soderstrom 55
Strikeouts- Tucker 88, Soderstrom 141
Stolen Bases- Tucker 25, Soderstrom 8

Tucker also is much higher in just about every advanced analytical stat but I'm not even going to attempt explaining those to your pea-sized brain for even suggesting they're remotely the same player. Especially when it was one of the worst years of Tucker's career, after an incredible first half that got derailed by another mismanaged injury by our FO in the second half.

Honestly didn't even know this til looking it up but Tucker should say to hell with the Cubs and Wrigley anyway with his staggering home/away splits

Away/Home
BA- .292/.236
OBP- .399/.353
SLG- .524/.395
OPS- .923/.747
HR- 15/7
RBI-
Pea-sized brain—really? Resorting to personal attacks now? BTW, Tucker’s in his prime and Soderstrom’s only 23. Take a look at Tucker’s numbers when he was 23. Why do you keep saying this is one of the worst years of his career when his stats aren’t that far off from his career averages?
 
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Ian Happ isn't going anywhere. He loves Chicago and there is zero chance he's a platoon outfielder.

Then how do the Cubs improve their lineup next year? The guys with the best/easiest trade ability are guys the Cubs need to keep in PCA, Hoerner and Busch.

It's nice that Happ loves Chicago, but this is a business and the Cubs have run out the core group of Horner, Swanson, Happ & Suzuki for 3 years now. And it's been an inconsistent offense every year. The solution isn't swapping out: ??? for Tucker for Bellinger and figure the Cubs have a better chance for a deep post-season run in 2026.

I'd love for:
  1. PCA & Shaw to take their games to the next level in 2026
  2. Ballesteros to have a ROY level of performance (Is that better than Tucker?)
  3. Busch to have a similar year to 2025 and prove he can hit lefties at a .240+ clip
But I don't see that as a big improvement over the 2025 lineup.
 
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Then how do the Cubs improve their lineup next year? The guys with the best/easiest trade ability are guys the Cubs need to keep in PCA, Hoerner and Busch.

It's nice that Happ loves Chicago, but this is a business and the Cubs have run out the core group of Horner, Swanson, Happ & Suzuki for 3 years now. And it's been an inconsistent offense every year. The solution isn't swapping just swapping out: ??? for Tucker for Bellinger and figure the Cubs have a better chance for a deep post-season run in 2026.

I'd love for:
  1. PCA & Shaw to take their games to the next level in 2026
  2. Ballesteros to have a ROY level of performance (Is that better than Tucker?)
  3. Busch to have a similar year to 2025 and prove he can hit lefties at a .240+ clip
But I don't see that as a big improvement over the 2025 lineup.
Need breakout year from Caissie, PCA, Shaw, and Balleteros
 
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Man some of you guys really under appreciate how damn good Kyle Tucker is.

Tucker is above average, but is he really that much better than Suzuki? And Suzuki is a $19M piece for the Cubs. Would I re-sign Tucker for less than $25M AAV on a 4 year deal? Sure, but some team will pay him more.

But he clearly isn't elite (top 10-15) and about the same as 20-30 players in the next tier.
 
Tucker is above average, but is he really that much better than Suzuki? And Suzuki is a $19M piece for the Cubs. Would I re-sign Tucker for less than $25M AAV on a 4 year deal? Sure, but some team will pay him more.

But he clearly isn't elite (top 10-15) and about the same as 20-30 players in the next tier.
Some will argue that he is a top 10-15 based on OPS and WAR.