***Official 2024 Chicago Cubs Thread***

This isn't about PCA or Busch. And it's not about figuring "what kind of player" Wisdom is.

This is about getting more than a single at bat in a game for 1 of 4 Cubs bench players. This is no different than starting Tauchman. It makes more sense to start Wisdom against a lefty than a righty every 7-10 days.

We just had an off day and you are sitting a guy for a 2nd consecutive day who has hit .333 with 3 HR over the past 7 days for a bench player that maybe sees a mistake and hits it out tonight but otherwise is probably going to strike out and play some shaky defense too. Again, I have been pretty open about how I think Wisdom is a bum so I'll own any bias I have when it comes to him in the lineup but Busch is the better player and has a future with this team, Wisdom does not. If they are serious about making a late playoff push then you don't play this game of trying to find matchups to get bench players playing time you put your best lineup out there on a nightly basis going forward. Can't use this BS about righty vs lefty matchup then keep 2 lefties in the lineup tonight in Bellinger and PCA who are so far a combined 4-4 tonight.

Ross played the righty/lefty matchups too much and now that Counsell is doing some of the same makes me wonder if the front office is weighing in on the lineups too much with analytics. Roll your best lineup out there on a consistent basis like good teams do and take the good with the bad. Especially with some of these younger guys they need the confidence that they are going to play nearly every day and not sit when they see a lefty on the mound.
 
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I guess another ripple to the Busch/Wisdom debate - it’s become common place for your best hitter to hit in the 2 spot. Ohtani has hit there 69 times this year.

If Wisdom isn’t good enough to play against righties, do we really believe he’s one of the best 2-3 bats on this team against lefties?
maybe play him a little more to keep him a little sharp in case you need him to pinch hit otherwise the complaints about him not being able to hit will be there but agree with you bat him down 6/7 in the order
 
Watching on the Sox broadcast vs Marquee. Feel bad for Steve Stone having to endure this historically bad baseball day after day.
I still like Stoney. He and Chip got a raw deal for what went down when they got the boot. They got critical of what was going on and as a fan I appreciated that because I don't like announcers that are complete homers.
 
**** Stoney

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Jameson Taillon ERA if you take out the worst team in the history of the MLB:

2.98

Jameson Taillon ERA if you include the worst team in the history of the MLB:

3.50

He would have the 5th best ERA in the NL if you remove the White Sox lol
 
Fun fact mentioned when he was with the Red Sox and the Cubs were playing them at Fenway - Benintendi was available after 6 picks in the 2015 draft. Red Sox got him at 7. Cubs, who had him next up on their board, ended up drafting Ian Happ 2 picks later.
 
Heart attack Hector. Any other closers you guys can think of in Cubs history that were guaranteed to **** around every time they were in?

Only guys off the top of my head are Marmol and Rondon at the end of their times.
 
White Sox have a major fireworks show going on right now in the background of the post game show. It's probably a Friday Night thing they do, but I prefer thinking they're celebrating a one run loss to the Cubs.
 
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Heart attack Hector. Any other closers you guys can think of in Cubs history that were guaranteed to **** around every time they were in?

Only guys off the top of my head are Marmol and Rondon at the end of their times.
Rod Beck always had guys on base before he finally got the 3rd out.
 
Heart attack Hector. Any other closers you guys can think of in Cubs history that were guaranteed to **** around every time they were in?

Only guys off the top of my head are Marmol and Rondon at the end of their times.
but it keeps us watching till the end
 
Good list of bad closers the Cubs have had. Alfonseca and Gregg were horrible. Rod Beck was not a bad closer but he rarely pitched a clean 9th inning it felt like but he eventually got out with the save even if it was nail biting to watch.