Whether you can add Burnes, or keep Taillon. Assad, Brown, Wicks, Wesneski and Horton is a better 4/5 depth than 90% of the league.
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If “Jed sucks” is your view thats fine. It also can be real that the offers might not have been as good considering teams would have to sign up for the remaining two years of his deal too. It’s not like it’s a super cheap contract, some teams strictly want rentals and I can see the upside of Rogers being valued more than Taillon depending on the team.
Taillon’s situation is just a pretty unique one of being team controlled, but not on the cheap, solid but not an ace, valuable this year but also for the future. Makes his value and desire to trade him really hard to pin down.
Taillon’s situation is just a pretty unique one of being team controlled, but not on the cheap, solid but not an ace, valuable this year but also for the future. Makes his value and desire to trade him really hard to pin down.
The other option with Taillon is hold on to him until winter and then make the trade.
Injuries to the pitching staff may be complicating trade deadline moves. Along with Cubs being open about Imanaga load management. Moving starters Brown & Wicks to 60 day IL may give JH pause to trade Taillon if he doesn't get right pieces in return.
Injuries to the pitching staff may be complicating trade deadline moves. Along with Cubs being open about Imanaga load management. Moving starters Brown & Wicks to 60 day IL may give JH pause to trade Taillon if he doesn't get right pieces in return.
Taillon will be an easy off load if can sign Burnes in the offseason, if not he's good insurance. We've addressed half of our fixable positions and Leiter brings us back under the tier one cap. All in all not a bad deadline.
Burnes is a Boras client. Pretty much a pipe dream to sign him, and with Steele and Shota at the top I don't think they see a top end starter as a priority. What they NEED to add is a middle of the order slugger. A guy who teams have to game plan around. Soto would be it, but the Cubs are never going to make that big of a commitment to one player. I suppose if you trade a significant prospect package for a slugger than you could try to sign Burnes. It will be very interesting.
Would be nice if we could finally get one of those big sluggers to come from the farm system instead of gambling on a big contract in free agency. That is what the biggest frustration I have because we had several of those types of players on the 2016 team that came from the farm system. This current roster all we have to show for position players making any kind of impact that came through the farm system is Hoerner and Happ and neither are the big sluggers that Bryant, Schwarber, and even Baez when he was at his best. Busch is kind of like Rizzo, rough debut with another organization but produced with another club but I'm not sure he'll ever get to peak Rizzo production either. PCA is off to a rough start. Not much to show from the farm system at the moment other than some pitching which the 2016 did not have from the farm system and had to go out and buy.
You can if you have some offense to go with them. Right now this team has a problem scoring enough runs to win a 3-2 game sometimes. A good offense solves a lot of problems and doesn't require your pitching staff to have to be near perfect every game out when your offense struggles to muster up even a few runs to support them.
We just got longer today with Bellinger and Paredes. Add a catcher and a bat in the offseason and it's all you can do. Sometimes you just have to move forward instead if ******** about the past. This offense was near the top of the national league last year. No one really expected this type of massive failure.
Tommy John surgery as an 18 year old, currently on IL, arm fatigue twice at Oklahoma.If you aren't sold on Horton you're not going to be happy with any pitching prospect we'd get for Taillon.
And where exactly are you getting injury prone?
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Heading into the last hour, I’d give Jed a solid C so far for this deadline. Approach has very much been a dude who’s job is on the line.
Goes up if he finds a way to save money next year.
Goes up if he finds a way to save money next year.
I'm not trying to dwell in the past, it was time to break up that core when they did and I am glad they did although probably was a year or 2 late with some of them. I am just using it as a reference as to how we built the last competitive team we had through the farm system and acquiring the right prospects and other guys at the right time to fill in the missing pieces. And I don't think that adding Paredes all the sudden fixes the problems the offense has, this is essentially the same kind of roster we had last year with even worse hitting at the bottom of the lineup. We added Candelario to the lineup last year and still had an epic failure down the stretch. The only difference with this lineup than the one we had last year is we don't have garbage at 1B but we are much weaker hitting at the bottom with the catching position and PCA right now. Everyone else is basically the same and many of them are not having the same kind of season that they had last season. This team is not making the playoffs and I doubt we see anything in the 2nd half with the offense to get us excited about next season without adding a couple significant bats. Maybe someone like Caissie comes up and crushes it but judging how all the other prospects have been handled lately and have done with their call ups I am not holding my breath that he'll be one of those power bats in the middle of the lineup next year. Hope he can be that guy but odds are probably not.
The Cubs are kinda like the Chicago Bulls roster right now, on paper it looks like it should compete but in reality it's a bad mix of players that can't win. And just like the Bulls front office lately they keep running the same team out there again expecting different results that don't happen. This team could play .600 baseball from here on out and probably still will miss the playoffs. Paredes hopefully fixes what has been a problem for years at 3B but we got bigger issues than that now when half the team struggles to bat over .200 for long periods of time. We're going to be stuck with Bellinger's contract next season because he has not played as well as last year and likely will opt in. There was a reason no one offered him the big money deal with years that he was seeking and I am not surprised this is how it turned out either. Suzuki and Happ both had extended cold streaks with their bats this year too and both have had similar stretches in the past too.
Gomes went to ****, he got old. Last year was an aberration to his career. The hope was Amaya would take the lead and Gomes could be a very useful backup. Just didn't happen.
Candelario has a hit streak when he got here then was pretty much garbage the rest of the way.
Swanson is the biggest disappointment. Is he injured as been hinted? Probably but who knows.
Suzuki and Happ are pretty much what they were in 23. Bellinger has been injured but still not the same pop he showed last year. Which likely costs him the opportunity to opt out.
Busch looks to be our aircraft carrier as the talking heads discussed last night. Hopefully we get a league average catcher in the offseason. Really not much more you can do at this point.
As for adding a bat as some suggest. I think most of us know that only happens with a Bellinger opt out.
I'm hopeful some information comes out tonight on the asking price (if there was one) for some of our guys.
This was the biggest sellers market there has been in years and we sat on our ******* hands. It's incredible.
This was the biggest sellers market there has been in years and we sat on our ******* hands. It's incredible.
Jed just now on Marquee
- "It's hard to tell the market when you're looking at it from just one team"
...Yeah *******, that's your ******* job
- "We had some deals going into today that were close but went away by the end"
...Are there regrets letting Taillon get exposed last night? How the **** were there multiple deals close but just didn't happen?
- "It's hard to tell the market when you're looking at it from just one team"
...Yeah *******, that's your ******* job
- "We had some deals going into today that were close but went away by the end"
...Are there regrets letting Taillon get exposed last night? How the **** were there multiple deals close but just didn't happen?
This didn't stop several other teams from completing deals, many that probably overpaid for pitching too. Jed talks a lot but usually has little action to show in the end. Hope they clean house in the front office and get someone in that actually has a plan to build a winner. I still have no clue what direction this FO is taking other than stock piling prospects that we don't give a fair chance or don't pan out and make a bunch of small/cheap moves hoping 1 of them we catch lightning in a bottle. I'd love to know what deals they were being offered and if Jed just asked for too much or if other teams don't value our players as highly as our FO and fans do.
Keeping Taillon could end up being a steal by not being traded. $18 million for a solid #2/3 for 2 more years seems to be the going rate in baseball. Steele won’t hit FA until after 2027, Imanaga is locked up, and somebody from the young arms will emerge as a budget friendly option in the rotation.
I did want the catcher position to be a priority at the deadline.
I did want the catcher position to be a priority at the deadline.
