The freshmen that show up will play but will they be in the Top 7 or 8 on a winning team? I have my doubts on that outside of Foster and Foster will need to play the 4 if he gets significant PT. Is Prohm capable of adjusting, especially defensively, in order to successfully accommodate Foster playing the 4? I have my doubts on that as well.
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That’s why I think Blackwell or Dubar will play, because they actually are 4’s in Prohms system. Even Walker has an easier path to playing. Foster has Young and Conditt and his position.
Expect any freshman to come in and be rotation players on a good team is not fair to them. That said we've seen it happen multiple times (Monte, Matt, Tyrese, Talen, Lindell) and the guys coming in are very talented. I don't see a reason unless Prohm lands another transfer that 2-3 won't be playing significant minutes and be solid if not assets. If nothing else it will set them up for their Soph years.
Assuming Tyler Harris gets his waiver:
Starters
Harris
Bolton
JCL
Johnson
Solo
Bench
Jackson
Conditt
Foster
I don't know about top 7 or 8, but as of right now, Walker, Dubar and Blackwell are all going to need to be ready to play minutes next year.
I think Foster can play the 4 but I don't think it's going to be that often. I do think it'll be fun to see Conditt and Foster on the floor at the same time. The only way that can happen consistently though is if Foster can guard the 4 as well as be versatile offensively.
I agree he will play the 4 some because they want him out there. But he won’t see significant minutes there unless we are looking to repeat last years record.
No no lol. I guess I didn't really explain that well. My point of it is those first 8 guys are going to be getting time. Dubar, Blackwell and Walker may not be in the "top 8", but they're going to have to play significant minutes.
I too would not like him to play the 4 if that is ineffective. I was saying it COULD be effective and if it is, it'll be fun to watch, that's all.
I would still like to see Foster at 4 on offense and 5 on defense paired with Solo at the 5 on O and 4 on D. I think last year when Solo would switch out high on D he showed good footwork and quick hands and if over the summer he can improve those I think he could be fairly effective guarding a 4 and that is what we really missed in a 4 last year was someone that could stay in front of his guy on D.
Solo looked great in individual possessions when he got isolated on a switch. I don’t think that scales up, particularly when it comes to chasing a stretch-4 around screens on the perimeter. There’s a reason we saw zero Solo/Conditt minutes played last year.
He's not the least talented but I actually think Foster has the toughest route to playing time for the frosh. There are a lot of minutes up for grabs at the guard and wing spots, there are much less to split between Solo, George and XF. Playing two bigs is his easiest route but I think the only way Prohm tries that again is if he has to. If that's the case, that would either mean the transfers/frosh on the perimeter were a flop or that XF comes in and is just too good to sit.
You should have a numbered column on the left from 1-13. Having the column headers in Row 1 meant the count was off, and it initially confused me.
Perhaps, or perhaps that is an accidental discovery (and would not be the first time a sporting team made one) of something we did not know we have.
If Solomon can hold his own against a 4 on the perimeter... if... it unlocks keeping Foster or Conditt near the rim as a shot blocker, and if Foster's offensive game is more facing the basket, it lets you switch them 4/5 on offense/defense. That is a more attractive setup, if you can make it work, than Jacobson-Young was.
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Foster is likely to be the most talented of the freshman and probably one of the most talented guys on the roster. Ranking by their 24-7 ratings...
98.59% Coleman-Lands
97.45% Foster
93.64% Harris
92.38% Blackwell
89.24% Dubar
89.21% Bolton
89.04% Jackson III
87.43% Walker
86.81% Conditt IV
86.48% Young
NR Johnson
Looking at that list, especially if Harris is not playing... I do not see how Foster is not eventually playing a pretty large role. He might not seem like a great positional fit for our needs, but he is probably just going to be better.
Unless that 97.45% is totally off base for him.
Those ratings are relevant only for incoming freshmen. 2 years of college production for Harris and 3 years for JCL clearly put both behind Bolton.
And unfortunately for the 5-9 Harris, his college production and skill set screams SG instead of PG, which is by far a position of immediate, higher need.
I agree Foster is really talented but Lewis and Griffin would have been the 3rd and 5th highest rated guys on this list. I personally don't think that means much. My opinion was totally based on who is in front of him and how successful Prohm teams have been built. It's tough see George and Solo getting less minutes and I'm hopeful Prohm doesn't try to go with two bigs, its just too far out of his comfort zone.
Oh, I do not disagree with you for a second that Bolton is our best returning guard and, in all likelihood, our best guard and best player period. He was last year after Tyrese went down, certainly, and was one of our few bright spots last season.
But I think you and I agree when it comes to ranking the freshmen...
Foster at 97% projects as an immediate rotation guy, if not a starter. If we are going to be any good at all, Foster needs to be good enough to demand pretty significant playing time pretty early. You make the lineup work around your talent.
Players > Formations > Plays
If Foster is a complete bust (of the Lewis and Griffin vein, as you bring up @heitclone), then we are likely just going to suck anyways. If we are going to turn this around, you almost have to project that Foster is turning into an absolute stud or even a star by his sophomore year. If he goes the Lewis route, then Prohm needs some cardboard boxes.
Sink or Swim, Foster will be getting major minutes game one. I have read many on here who seen him that think he needs some development and I appreciate the opinion and respect it. But, players with XF offers and ranking don't go to a school if they aren't expecting to play. Especially since his goal is to go pro early.
While I don't think Prohm promised him a starting spot right away I believe he did ensure him 20+ minutes with the opportunity to be a starter if he earns that. That is the reality of getting a top 60 recruit, and we've seen it happen with Georges through THT (top 80 guys playing major minutes by Dec)
As Sig noted for ISU to be good Foster figuring it out right away is the the most obvious path. We can pencil him in as the third big with a good chance at stating at PF in January.
I completely agree , He played the 4 position of offense for multiple years at Oskaloosa because their center was Cole Henry (UNI Commit). He looked really good at the stretch position there, but mainly played the 5 on defense. He did, however, show he can guard shooters but 3A Iowa and Big 12 is different. I didn’t see him play this year without Henry, but I’m guessing he took the role of the 5 on offense and defense. His highlights this year on defense seemed to be blocking tons of shots at the rim
