Offical Postgame thread

bruns said they were talking on cell phones for first half. the more i think about it though; ndsu wasnt that impressive; a very non-explosive team.
 
I've seen many with the same opinions that I have here.

Austin was shaky the first half.
Receivers need to find their hands.
Defense was terrible often (but occasionally put together a good series..so there's hope if they can find consistency)
Not too impressed with A Rob despite his big gianers.
VERY Impressed with Schwartz.
Special teams: Outstanding.

ISU has a lot to put together for the Iowa game in order to be competitive. But the good news is that NDSU was much better than I expected. The people who say that Craig Bohl is a great coach know what they are saying. I also thought that the running back Paschall was quite good for an FCS team.

Good to see a well contested ISU win.
 
The only excuse worse than Iowa's 'the second string guy is better than the first stringer' is ISU's 'we were holding back the playbook.' We hear it every year after a close win, and yet, we come to find out we run about everything the offense is capable of running during that same game. It's stupid to say and inaccurate.
 
The only excuse worse than Iowa's 'the second string guy is better than the first stringer' is ISU's 'we were holding back the playbook.' We hear it every year after a close win, and yet, we come to find out we run about everything the offense is capable of running during that same game. It's stupid to say and inaccurate.

1) Sims looked good. How in the world is he the weakest link in Kansas's recruiting class? He makes our defense better and may be ISU's best player.

2) Arob looked excellent. He attacked the LOS and made decisive cuts. I don't know if he can hold up for an entire year, but he looked much better to me than he did last year.

3) Banks is in position to make a ton of plays but someone needs to tell him that his cast is off now, and he can use his arms to make a tackle.

4) Our special teams might be the difference between 3 and 5 wins this year...to the positive for once

5) Money is what I was told this summer. A great athlete that has a ways to go to be a solid receiver against Big 12 defenses.

6) NDSU and SDSU have terrible qb's

7) We'll blitz the heck out of Iowa next week with eight in the box and see if they have a WR that can beat us.

Kansas???

NDSU's QB was pretty good. He made very good decisions and threw a good ball. In all honesty, he played better than AA did tonight.
 
They said on the PA system it was the highest attendance for an opener since Iowa in '87. That ought to put to rest the idea that fewer people attend a Thursday opener than a Saturday.

It sure ought to.

bruns said they were talking on cell phones for first half. the more i think about it though; ndsu wasnt that impressive; a very non-explosive team.

They aren't flashy. They just keep plugging away at you. And that RB, #2 never stops.:wideeyed:
 
One more thing-NO PENALTIES. This is huge to me. This means we are a disciplined team. ........I only recall us taking one timeout ...

1 penalty. But still, I agree, the lack of penalties is huge.

1 timeout while on defense too. This lead to NDSU field goal before half. Minus 1 for the coaching staff. But otherwise a great job by the coaching staff.

SOOOO much better than the Cheese-di*k era.
 
1 penalty. But still, I agree, the lack of penalties is huge.

1 timeout while on defense too. This lead to NDSU field goal before half. Minus 1 for the coaching staff. But otherwise a great job by the coaching staff.

SOOOO much better than the Cheese-di*k era.

there was a holding penalty that was declined too...
 
Probably to focus their attention on that play. Think about it.

Exactly. I remember last year that Kansas State ran a fake punt in the very first non-conference game that they had in control. Me at home was thinking, wtf? But the announcers correctly said that now, every team had to spend time preparing for that play, whether or not KSU ever used it again.

You can sometimes be too vanilla. Need to make other teams waste practice time on certain formations, plays, etc that you won't even use.
 
Say, was anyone who watched the ISU season with George Amundson at QB reminded of that season during ISU's last scoring drive?
QB run, QB run, sets up big scoring pass.
In my mind that's a big HELLO to Johnny Majors.
 
1 penalty. But still, I agree, the lack of penalties is huge.

1 timeout while on defense too. This lead to NDSU field goal before half. Minus 1 for the coaching staff. But otherwise a great job by the coaching staff.

SOOOO much better than the Cheese-di*k era.

No kiddin? Sorry I missed it. I can take timeouts on defense I can take them on offense too if we have the wrong play but having to call them just so we don't get a DOG is ridiculous.
 
I think it will be better if the headphones in the booth are working.

And did anyone think we were holding back part of the playbook?


We got lucky there wasn't a review in tonights game, or that playbook might have been flipped a few more pages.

We just played NDSU, an average team in AA football, and your response is we didn't use all of our playbook? Wow. This was a bad team. Did you notice how slow they looked on offense? Our defense is really, really bad.
 
Kansas???

NDSU's QB was pretty good. He made very good decisions and threw a good ball. In all honesty, he played better than AA did tonight.
I think you're right about the Kansas comment. I know the whole Oklahoma situation worked out in our favor but for some reason I was thinking that he was the one that was told by Kansas to go kick rocks on signing day or thereabouts because KU was oversigned. Oh well, I'm glad he's in Ames.

NDSU's qb was not good. Better than SDSU's qb last year, but I can see why the Bison fanbase is split on who should be their starter. AA made pretty good decisions but was just off a little. I imagine he's swimming a little right now in all the new terminology and reads.
 
Kansas???

NDSU's QB was pretty good. He made very good decisions and threw a good ball. In all honesty, he played better than AA did tonight.

NDSU's QB wasn't good. He was slow. He missed way too many passes. You could tell by just watching him throw that he tried to aim the ball instead of just throwing, and many were way off the mark.

I thought Arnaud had a good night, but he will need to take some steam off of the ball, otherwise you see some of those fast balls get deflected off of our WRs and intercepted.
 
Liked our receivers. Couple drops, but they all look really strong and able to break that first tackle, which is the key to RAC. AA needs to go through his progressions faster. He was staring down receivers way to often tonight. I expect that to improve with experience in this offense though. Running game look pretty good, but I was a little surprised that we didn't see more guys get some carries. I thought we were a little deeper at that position. Defensively, we were allowing WAY to many yards off the edge, both running and passing. If the D-Line can't get a push up-field to disrupt plays, the LB's are going to have to play wider in an attempt to string plays out towards the sidelines. Or play the safetys closer to the LOS. Liked the varied blitz packages and the down field coverage.
 
Congrats to CPR on his first win. I feel a lot better about our program after watching that game. No penalties, good play calls, and an focused team. Herman's offense isn't clicking yet, but you can see the potential. I think the D can be passable if they actually get low for tackles. They were in the right spots most of the time, but couldn't take people down.

A few specific things...
1) Sims & Reynolds are going to make a big impact on this team. So is the re-discovery of Marquis Hamilton.

2) Our O-line could be good this year. They made some mistakes, but overall there were bigger holes tonight than I have seen at any time against any opponent in the last 10 years (since Ben Bruns). We didn't do this against UNI or Kent last year...

3) Our LBs suck. They really struggle at shedding blocks, which is one of the make-or-break skills. Hopefully AJ Klein and Jake Knott are quick studies.
 
I think we all should have known this going in, herman wasnt going to show Iowa or the rest of the big 12 alot on the first night against a 1-AA

All you 'holding back the playbook' from Iowa and the big 12 guys.......

Do you also think that since this is brand new for everyone that they want to build and get good on the basics? Brand new coach, brand new offense, first game - yeah, lets not run everything in the playbook as Iowa is next! wow.

we were in a game through 3/4 of this thing and you guys are playing the playbook game?

......and since when is a reverse end around pass for a TD a basic call?
 
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I only caught the second half, but my expectations were met -- not exceeded, but certainly not less than.

The Pros

  • David Sims. Sims was absolutely all over the place. He was jumping in to blow up runs, finding his way through blockers to get to the outside, breaking up long plays, and making hard hits all night. The pass defense as a whole looked fairly good.
  • Running game. We were fairly unstoppable in the running game, but had a balanced pass attack as well. ARob played a solid game, Arnaud was smart on the ground and ran tough, and Schwartz at the end showed promise that power back we can use in certain situations.
  • Receivers. Hamilton is officially out of the doghouse and in the endzone. Two touchdowns, nearly 100 yards, and most surprising was his ability to get free of defenders and run smart routes despite his speed. His hard work was evident and looks to have paid off. Reynolds was shaky in parts, but picked up a half dozen catches and showed why he's fought his way up the depth chart.
  • Discipline. This team is infinitely more disciplined and controlled than last years' squad. Still had a couple big hits, still played with fire, but played much smarter and limited unnecessary penalties and stupid mistakes.
  • Kicking game. Mahoney really impressed me with that 50-yard kick. Wasn't sure he had it in him, but it's probably because I'm an Iowa State fan and ISU kickers always give me feelings in my stomach similar to my ex-girlfriends. Definitely gives some more trust in the kicking game for the next year, and picks up from a good freshman campaign. Brandtner was solid as always.
  • Pass defense (in parts). Parker looked good in the final quarter, picking up a couple sacks and showing that ability we all saw in his first game as a Cyclone a couple years back. Good to see him rewarded, and hopefully it is a sign of what is to come this season. The last couple of series showed that we can be an effective team if we can force the opponent to pass -- but obviously that will be an issue in itself...bringing us to...
The Cons

  • Run defense. Doesn't need much elaboration, but when NDSU kept the ball on the ground, our defensive line got manhandled. Also some difficulties keeping up laterally to prevent runners from getting to the outside. A few missed tackles, but improvement from last year. In short, there is no reason we should give up 209 rushing yards to a FCS team, there is no reason we should give up 146 rushing yards to an FBS back. We have a lot to do in this department, and I feel it simply cannot be a quick fix, and our offense might have to be counted on to simply overpower our shortcomings on defense.
  • Inconsistency on offense. The defense has to get more stops to keep from staying out on the field and being drained by these double-digit play and 5+ minute drives, but the offense does very few favors. I worry that a high-energy offense like the spread can pay off if we get in a groove, but might exhaust our defense and snowball very quickly if the offense get shut down by an opposing defense for a couple successive early series.

This will happen this year, a lot. We'll have a lot of quick 3 and outs (passing game not eating up clock, and no huddle eating up even less) and that will destroy our D.
 
Are we going to find a way to run the ball other than the zone read? It worked at times tonight but I don't see it working against better defenses. Hopefully we find better ways to get ARob the ball, he looked great.
Not very impressed with anything tonight besides David Sims. Pretty decent upgrade over the guys we put back there last year.
 
I think you're right about the Kansas comment. I know the whole Oklahoma situation worked out in our favor but for some reason I was thinking that he was the one that was told by Kansas to go kick rocks on signing day or thereabouts because KU was oversigned. Oh well, I'm glad he's in Ames.

NDSU's qb was not good. Better than SDSU's qb last year, but I can see why the Bison fanbase is split on who should be their starter. AA made pretty good decisions but was just off a little. I imagine he's swimming a little right now in all the new terminology and reads.

You were probably thinking about Brayden Burris. He was once committed to K-State before being informed just before signing date in '08 that they were going to grayshirt him. Thankfully, for both Burris and ISU, he reopened his recruiting and signed with Chizek. He ended up picking the right school, but his short list came down to 2 head coaches with one foot out of the door. He got some playing time tonight and will continue to be needed to provide OL depth.
 

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