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No more Brock please!

I'm guessing if Taylor and Clark hadn't had 4 fouls each we wouldn't have seen him today. I would think he was put in to foul, and then if we needed somebody to kick to hopefully he could knock it down. Obviously he didn't shoot well at all, but give him a little bit of slack. I don't think Steve Kerr would come in lights out after sitting for 39 minutes either. Now hopefully he gets a lot quicker release for next year and we have a lot better depth so we don't have to worry about it next year.
 
Cyfan322 said:
We saw the same thing the past couple years with John Neal. He sits on the bench all game and then is expected to come in during crunch time to hit a big three. Give the kid a break.
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I think that Neal was more athletic than Brock (what a statement:biggrin9gp:), the problem is that Brock has possibly the slowest release in Division 1 Basketball.

That being said, Mac is big on playing guys based on how they practice, so he must be doing well when we're guarding him. I am pretty sure that he will have a little tougher time seeing the floor, as Mac continues to recruit over him.
 
Balls said:
While I agree that Brock is not an overall Big 12 player, it's unfair to judge someone's shooting ability when he's asked to shoot 3's after sitting on the bench for the whole game. It would be like a field goal kicker not being allowed to warm up on the side line or even stretch his leg. Just a bad situation to put a player into. Not that a shooter can't do it, however the odds, specially for a freshmen, are just not in the shooter's favor.

Thus I would say it was a coaching mistake and agree that Taylor, Ceaser, Clark, Johnson, Jiri, or Grey would have been better options due to them being warmed up.

As Brock gains experience and matures I think he'll find a way to contribute on a limited basis. For a walk-on, he a good get.
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I still don't understand why he comes in, then, during the last minute of games to shoot "cold" threes. He's proven many times that he can't hit the broad side of a barn in games. WHY is he out there. No one can tell me that we didn't have a better option than him to do it, 4 fouls or not. I had the same reaction when I saw him checking in, I finally accepted another L.
 
I agree with what balls said... The kid is being brought in when hes ice cold sitting on the bench. Its more a fault to mac for expecting a kid who's ice cold to be able to hit crucial three's than the kid for missing them. He lights it up in practice because hes taken practice shots and is warm from running up and down the floor. Not hard to figure this one out when people talk about how he lights it up in practice.
 
Brock is a walk-on that is living out his dream of playing D-1 basketball...he works harder than any of you know, and obviously he must be doing something right for McDermott to think he should see minutes. (McDermott is a little smarter than any of us). Obviously Brock isn't too athletic, and he is obviously struggling from the field...but it's just flat out stupid for so-called Cyclone "fans" to rip a Cyclone that is trying his hardest to shreds just because he is really struggling...I can guarantee you he is taking it harder than any of you, and this sh*t probably doesn't help.
 
Apparently he makes them in practice. If so, why not put him in earlier and let him at least be a warmed up player. I think Gmac is rolling the dice throwing a cold player out there at the end of the game. Also, Gmac should now know there is a track record of a nervous, not ready for prime time player. A relaxed confident player does not hit the side of the backboard.
 
acody said:
Apparently he makes them in practice. If so, why not put him in earlier and let him at least be a warmed up player. I think Gmac is rolling the dice throwing a cold player out there at the end of the game. Also, Gmac should now know there is a track record of a nervous, not ready for prime time player. A relaxed confident player does not hit the side of the backboard.
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I think you may be on to something there. If memory serves me correctly, Brock didn't do too shabby in OOC when he was getting more PT. I remember him doing a decent job in OOC.
 
Clone_12 said:
Brock is a walk-on that is living out his dream of playing D-1 basketball...he works harder than any of you know, and obviously he must be doing something right for McDermott to think he should see minutes. (McDermott is a little smarter than any of us). Obviously Brock isn't too athletic, and he is obviously struggling from the field...but it's just flat out stupid for so-called Cyclone "fans" to rip a Cyclone that is trying his hardest to shreds just because he is really struggling...I can guarantee you he is taking it harder than any of you, and this sh*t probably doesn't help.
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It's McDermott's fault, not Brock's. (well, to an extent)
 
Clone_12 said:
Brock is a walk-on that is living out his dream of playing D-1 basketball...he works harder than any of you know, and obviously he must be doing something right for McDermott to think he should see minutes. (McDermott is a little smarter than any of us). Obviously Brock isn't too athletic, and he is obviously struggling from the field...but it's just flat out stupid for so-called Cyclone "fans" to rip a Cyclone that is trying his hardest to shreds just because he is really struggling...I can guarantee you he is taking it harder than any of you, and this sh*t probably doesn't help.
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It depends. If you criticize somebody and it's along the lines of what everybody else thinks, people nod and agree. But when you express a negative opinion that isn't widely accepted, people throw up their little internet arms and question your integrity and character and commitment to ISU athletics.
 
When you question a student-athlete for a lack of hustle, or dedication it's one thing...when you rip on a kid that's busting his tail it's another...but whatever works I guess...root for them when they win and talk about how much they suck and degrade the players when they lose if that's what you're into. Everybody is certainly entitled to their own opinion.
 
I believe there is a term for that...it's called a fair weather fan.
 
I can not understand why Brock will not pump fake and step under and past the defender flying out at him in these situations. While three points may be preferred, an open look and two points beats what we are getting now.

Doing this once-in-awhile for an uncontested shot might build some confidence in Brock. Additionally, it could keep defenders that are now flying out at him more honest; thereby giving him the chance of an open look or even drawing a foul.
 
Michael Lastuvka said:
It depends. If you criticize somebody and it's along the lines of what everybody else thinks, people nod and agree. But when you express a negative opinion that isn't widely accepted, people throw up their little internet arms and question your integrity and character and commitment to ISU athletics.
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Actually, he is right about this. I don't care what the opinions are, if they fall in line with what the majority believes, then it is OK. But disagree with popular opinion, and you are NOT the Iowa State fan that they are. That to me is VERY funny:laugh8kb:.
 
GoClone said:
I can not understand why Brock will not pump fake and step under and past the defender flying out at him in these situations. While three points may be preferred, an open look and two points beats what we are getting now.

Doing this once-in-awhile for an uncontested shot might build some confidence in Brock. Additionally, it could keep defenders that are now flying out at him more honest; thereby giving him the chance of an open look or even drawing a foul.
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He is just not very athletic. Add that to a lack of confidence on the court, and you see a three bounce off the side of the backboard,
 
Cyfan322 said:
We saw the same thing the past couple years with John Neal. He sits on the bench all game and then is expected to come in during crunch time to hit a big three. Give the kid a break.
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The kid has had a break for the last six games wuith no luck. He shopuld warm up the bus for next year. He has no confidence and is too slow at this point. He needs to improve before he sees the court.
 
darts180 said:
Actually, he is right about this. I don't care what the opinions are, if they fall in line with what the majority believes, then it is OK. But disagree with popular opinion, and you are NOT the Iowa State fan that they are. That to me is VERY funny:laugh8kb:.
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Or it might be HOW said opinion is EXPRESSED.
 
At this point I think Ceaser or Mark Currie are better options than Brock for late game 3 point shooting. At least those 2 can play defense and have a little more size and quickness that Brock does not have.
 
I agree with travman23 about Ceaser and Currie being better options. Jacobsen might be a great shooter in practice but if it doesn't carry into games, it doesn't matter. Ceaser seems to do a great job of coming off the bench and hitting a couple shots. Jacobson doesn't have great size and quickness to keep up on defense. Brock is a redshirt freshman and so he still has some time to develop. I don't think he'll be a John Neal but thats okay with me.
 
avery_larry said:
Or it might be HOW said opinion is EXPRESSED.
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In English??? Straight forward, with no spin??? With stats to back up your arguments??? I am lost, is there another way to express your opinion????

Oh yeah Avery, agree with you, and people who think along the same lines, or your WRONG!!!!!. MY BAD:no6xn:, I forgot.
 
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