NCAA revenge

You are talking about two different things though, you can never stop kids from leaving a program, if they feel they are not getting the playing time or are buried in the depth chart, kids are going to leave, nothing can stop that. But you can stop them signing with another school, and that is what the coaches are complaining about, that teams like ISU is trying to prepare for a bowl game while at the same time they are forced to recruit kids that are in the portal for next season.

Set a date when the portal opens and closes, that forces players to either not leave the team or if they do, they are not in the national databank of kids in the portal. Leaving earlier in the season allows a player to get his name out there and gives him a chance to get a better offer or a better school. By not allowing players to throw their name in, evens it out for all schools.

Heck if I am Okie State, I would have my entire staff working on the portal, where schools in bowl games cannot do that and prepare for the bowl game.

So you believe that schools do not start recruiting athletes until that portal opens? Players leave regardless of the portal dates. Coaches that have holes to fill will need to start recruiting players immediately after they leave if they want to fill those holes with the best players. The portal opening only matters for when you can make it official. But the agreements and NIL deals happen well before then.

If you want to fix that, you’ll need an NCAA that is able and willing to enforce rules around player contact. And that ship has sailed.
 
You are talking about two different things though, you can never stop kids from leaving a program, if they feel they are not getting the playing time or are buried in the depth chart, kids are going to leave, nothing can stop that. But you can stop them signing with another school, and that is what the coaches are complaining about, that teams like ISU is trying to prepare for a bowl game while at the same time they are forced to recruit kids that are in the portal for next season.

Set a date when the portal opens and closes, that forces players to either not leave the team or if they do, they are not in the national databank of kids in the portal. Leaving earlier in the season allows a player to get his name out there and gives him a chance to get a better offer or a better school. By not allowing players to throw their name in, evens it out for all schools.

Heck if I am Okie State, I would have my entire staff working on the portal, where schools in bowl games cannot do that and prepare for the bowl game.
I'm not sure that's quite the disincentive that you think it is. Not, at least, for the higher end talent. The official portal window is not much more window dressing. It's a low fence attempting to rein in a stampede, so that the NCAA can say "it's contained" with even a shred of legitimacy.

In reality, a lot of these athletes are being contacted outside of the official process. The portal itself isn't much more than a formality.
 
So you believe that schools do not start recruiting athletes until that portal opens? Players leave regardless of the portal dates. Coaches that have holes to fill will need to start recruiting players immediately after they leave if they want to fill those holes with the best players. The portal opening only matters for when you can make it official. But the agreements and NIL deals happen well before then.

If you want to fix that, you’ll need an NCAA that is able and willing to enforce rules around player contact. And that ship has sailed.
Sure I believe schools or their reps are contracting players whether they are in the portal or not, but we are not talking about that here. The OP was asking about how the portal starts in the middle of bowl season and the playoff.

The schools have repeated stated that they do not want the athletes to be employees, if you have to sign a contract to receive these funds, then they are afraid that would make them employees and that is what they are trying to avoid. The NCAA is washing its hands of the entire issue and is hoping the conferences can come up with a solution to fix the problem.

Until we have collective bargaining, and players have to sign contracts with the schools, and we can reign in money, salary caps, nothing will get done. But doing that makes these athletes employees, which is what the universities are trying to avoid. If a school gives a million dollars to the kid and he leaves, that is between the school and athlete, they want no part of it.
 
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You don’t think Jeanty has received any offers from power 4 schools offering him a big paycheck to transfer?

Or those backup QB’s that aren’t getting the playing time they wanted? It might not be a big deal coming into the game, but they’re always just a play away from being critical.
Not really because he’s going to the NFL. Also it’s Boise, I don’t consider them a serious playoff team.

Those backups can still transfer after the playoffs, aren’t going to be too many guys like that leaving when they have a chance at winning a national championship.

This seems like we’re looking for a solution for a problem that doesn’t really exist.
 
Not really because he’s going to the NFL. Also it’s Boise, I don’t consider them a serious playoff team.

Those backups can still transfer after the playoffs, aren’t going to be too many guys like that leaving when they have a chance at winning a national championship.

This seems like we’re looking for a solution for a problem that doesn’t really exist.
Penn State fans probably wouldn’t agree if Aller goes down with an injury early and they have to play a playoff game with their 3rd string qb.
 
Penn State fans probably wouldn’t agree if Aller goes down with an injury early and they have to play a playoff game with their 3rd string qb.
Sure but they most likely aren’t winning that game with their back up either because it’s the playoffs. I just don’t see this being a common occurrence but if they changed it I also wouldn’t care.

Most of these transfer people end up at inferior programs or don’t get picked up at all. At some point mid tier players will realize that
 
Sure but they most likely aren’t winning that game with their back up either because it’s the playoffs. I just don’t see this being a common occurrence but if they changed it I also wouldn’t care.

Most of these transfer people end up at inferior programs or don’t get picked up at all. At some point mid tier players will realize that
I don’t think it will be a common occurrence either but you’re kind of handcuffing players who may want to transfer and be enrolled at their next school for winter training before the playoffs even finish.

I mean I guess they could enter and ask their former team and future team if they can stay with the program and practice to help with playoff prep and move on once eliminated.

The timeline is just ridiculous. Coaches are being asked to prepare for a playoff game, maintain their roster, recruit the portal. All at the same time. Yeah yeah I know that’s what the $$$ is for but it’s not good for the sport. In basketball, you have coaches recruiting the portal during March madness.
 
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I don’t think it will be a common occurrence either but you’re kind of handcuffing players who may want to transfer and be enrolled at their next school for winter training before the playoffs even finish.

I mean I guess they could enter and ask their former team and future team if they can stay with the program and practice to help with playoff prep and move on once eliminated.

The timeline is just ridiculous. Coaches are being asked to prepare for a playoff game, maintain their roster, recruit the portal. All at the same time. Yeah yeah I know that’s what the $$$ is for but it’s not good for the sport. In basketball, you have coaches recruiting the portal during March madness.
Basketball actually could be a trickier concept because you have plenty of great players who have huge impacts that just don’t have a future in the NBA. For Football most of the impact players wouldn’t transfer from a playoff team to another squad as they would just go pro or already be making plenty of money.
 
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Basketball actually could be a trickier concept because you have plenty of great players who have huge impacts that just don’t have a future in the NBA. For Football most of the impact players wouldn’t transfer from a playoff team to another squad as they would just go pro or already be making plenty of money.
What’s stopping UNC from going under the table for a nice SG on a team that is a 12 seed and saying “enter the portal and we will give $2 million for next year year”? Last year the portal opened up 7 days after selection Sunday.
 
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What’s stopping UNC from going under the table for a nice SG on a team that is a 12 seed and saying “enter the portal and we will give $2 million for next year year”? Last year the portal opened up 7 days after selection Sunday.
I don’t know if legally anything stops that.

But this board has a thousand different takes on NIL and various doomsday type scenarios that never materialize.

With so little transparency in NIL people believe every rumor they hear.
 
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Sure but they most likely aren’t winning that game with their back up either because it’s the playoffs. I just don’t see this being a common occurrence but if they changed it I also wouldn’t care.

Most of these transfer people end up at inferior programs or don’t get picked up at all. At some point mid tier players will realize that

Quinn Ewers disagrees with this statement.

That’s the type of player I’m getting at. If tOSU had been in the 12 team playoffs that year, he’d have to either leave before the playoffs or wait for April. That’s a lot more common these days than you think.
 
Quinn Ewers disagrees with this statement.

That’s the type of player I’m getting at. If tOSU had been in the 12 team playoffs that year, he’d have to either leave before the playoffs or wait for April. That’s a lot more common these days than you think.
But they weren’t in the playoff that year so you can’t automatically assume that would be the case. Also for someone of Ewers caliber it doesn’t matter, most schools that were interested would immediately make room for him

The reason the Penn state dude has to leave is that he’s a mediocre 3star talent that are a dime a dozen. If he doesn’t jump in early other teams aren’t making room.
 
But they weren’t in the playoff that year so you can’t automatically assume that would be the case. Also for someone of Ewers caliber it doesn’t matter, most schools that were interested would immediately make room for him

The reason the Penn state dude has to leave is that he’s a mediocre 3star talent that are a dime a dozen. If he doesn’t jump in early other teams aren’t making room.
I’m honestly not sure what point you are trying to make? The original post was kind of silly but the thread is simply “hey the timeline for all these things happening at the same time is kind of dumb”.

You also said in your own words it wouldn’t matter because they wouldn’t win a playoff game with their backup anyway. Also in your own words, “g5 schools should not be ranked or get into the playoffs” and Penn State would play a g5 team one year removed and another g5 team if they win. Surely the backup could win those two games if he can come in and beat an almighty P2 Big 10 team on the road.
 
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I’m honestly not sure what point you are trying to make? The original post was kind of silly but the thread is simply “hey the timeline for all these things happening at the same time is kind of dumb”.

You also said in your own words it wouldn’t matter because they wouldn’t win a playoff game with their backup anyway. Also in your own words, “g5 schools should not be ranked or get into the playoffs” and Penn State would play a g5 team one year removed and another g5 team if they win. Surely the backup could win those two games if he can come in and beat an almighty P2 Big 10 team on the road.
I was mainly stating from my first post that the NCAA wasn’t doing this as an FU, it kinda spiraled from there to off initial topic but yeah I both don’t think as it stands it’s a problem but also have no problem with it being changed
 
But they weren’t in the playoff that year so you can’t automatically assume that would be the case. Also for someone of Ewers caliber it doesn’t matter, most schools that were interested would immediately make room for him

The reason the Penn state dude has to leave is that he’s a mediocre 3star talent that are a dime a dozen. If he doesn’t jump in early other teams aren’t making room.
Sounds perfect for Iowa!
 
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