National Anthem

What do you think of Whitney Houston's version of it?

I specifically said that I'm okay with an artist making SOME changes.

But for crying out loud,

[video=youtube;EZlpPBoWo5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZlpPBoWo5w[/video]

^THIS qualifies as making more than a few little tweaks (which is what Houston did). And there are plenty of other performances like this one on record.
 
I specifically said that I'm okay with an artist making SOME changes.

But for crying out loud,

[video=youtube;EZlpPBoWo5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZlpPBoWo5w[/video]

^THIS qualifies as making more than a few little tweaks (which is what Houston did). And there are plenty of other performances like this one on record.

Yeah, sorry, I went back and saw your post where you talked about her post.

That does seem hypocritical though. You're okay with her tweaking it because it sounds good but not others if it doesn't sound good.
 
It should not be a performance, but a collaborative effort with a leader to help facilitate. Robert Shaw said: Music and sex are too important to leave to the professionals. I would say that places like Boston and Chicago really do it well with the group participation.
 
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Yeah, sorry, I went back and saw your post where you talked about her post.

That does seem hypocritical though. You're okay with her tweaking it because it sounds good but not others if it doesn't sound good.

By all means, we should encourage professionals to make the national anthem sound like ****. Houston's was close enough to the ****** that people could sing along if they wanted. I'd have had no idea how to sing along with the kind of garbage I heard yesterday. There was no rhyme or reason to any of their added elements. They just did it for the sake of doing it, no different than the idiots who work their way up an octave and back down all on the same word, just because they can.
 
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Every year at my Superbowl party, I have a prop bet on the over/under for the length of the National Anthem. It's usually the over, because they are trying to make it their own. :twitcy:
 
Every year at my Superbowl party, I have a prop bet on the over/under for the length of the National Anthem. It's usually the over, because they are trying to make it their own. :twitcy:

Setting over/under lines. You're doing it wrong.
 
By all means, we should encourage professionals to make the national anthem sound like ****. Houston's was close enough to the ****** that people could sing along if they wanted. I'd have had no idea how to sing along with the kind of garbage I heard yesterday. There was no rhyme or reason to any of their added elements. They just did it for the sake of doing it, no different than the idiots who work their way up an octave and back down all on the same word, just because they can.

What are you trying to say that get's the **** treatment?
 
I specifically said that I'm okay with an artist making SOME changes.

But for crying out loud,

[video=youtube;EZlpPBoWo5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZlpPBoWo5w[/video]

^THIS qualifies as making more than a few little tweaks (which is what Houston did). And there are plenty of other performances like this one on record.

Well, what do you expect when you put career/longtime backup singers out in front? They'll suck up the spotlight for as loooooong as possible, and make that darn song their OWN, dammit! Look at how good a soloist I am!

(Those Rose Bowl performers all appeared in "20 Feet From Stardom," a documentary about longtime backup singers.)
 
Honestly, I think we should mix it up and sing the full or other verses (yes there are multiple verses)

Sum of all fears style: [video=youtube;qxvu54Y1_f0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxvu54Y1_f0[/video]
 
I guess I'm not sure why people make such a big deal about the perfection of a song that was based off of a British drinking song. I get some of the complaints that there are artists that make the song about them instead of the Anthem and most of those artists sound ridiculous, but the people that go on the far end of the extreme where the Anthem can only be played in its original musical structure/only Military bands should be allowed to play it (yes, I know some of those types) are just as ridiculous. It's a freaking British drinking song, people...

It pisses me off to see people not removing their hats/paying attention.

This is a bigger deal to me than the song being sung to someone's exact specifications or it's not showing some kind of "respect".
 
What are you trying to say that get's the **** treatment?

I'm talking about the difference between being the guy that figured out adding just a touch of garlic to buttered bread is awesome, and the guy that uses mayo instead of alfredo sauce on pasta because they look kind of the same.

Edit: completely misunderstood your post. Thought you were asking something like where do I draw the line.
 
I have two sons who served in the military (one for eight years, one at 13 years and counting) - respect for our flag and our anthem is ingrained in me.

When the anthem is played, regardless of the venue I stand at attention with my hand over my heart, my eyes on the flag. If it's a band playing it, or if the crowd is invited to sing along with the person at the mike, then yes...I sing the anthem. There are a few other people at football games and basketball games that also sing it.

Funny thing: I have noticed that as the seasons progress, more and more people are singing along with us few. I think some people are okay with singing it whenever, wherever, while others need someone else to be the first "brave" one to sing. The melody for our anthem is extremely challenging for even trained singers due to the crazy range it encompasses, so I understand why many people are reluctant to sing it. If you can't carry a tune in a bucket, no worries...sing it anyway if you feel moved to do so. Or simply stand quietly, hats off, and let the others sing it. :)

There's quite a bit of truth in many of these comments. Many performers will give their own twist to a song, but our national anthem should be recognizable. Some stylizing is fine, or group singing choral arrangements with different harmonies...but the version posted above renders the anthem virtually unrecognizable, as was Rosanne Barr's version a number of years back at a baseball game, or the version I heard "Xtina" perform a few years ago. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.
 
I don't mind a slightly different interpretation of the song, but it's important to keep in mind that you're not performing your own material. The anthem belongs to America. Treat it with respect. The times I've sung it, my thoughts were with the veterans and their family amongst the crowd. I'd hate to disappoint them. It's gratifying to be thanked specifically for NOT ruining it.
 
I have two sons who served in the military (one for eight years, one at 13 years and counting) - respect for our flag and our anthem is ingrained in me.

When the anthem is played, regardless of the venue I stand at attention with my hand over my heart, my eyes on the flag. If it's a band playing it, or if the crowd is invited to sing along with the person at the mike, then yes...I sing the anthem. There are a few other people at football games and basketball games that also sing it.

Funny thing: I have noticed that as the seasons progress, more and more people are singing along with us few. I think some people are okay with singing it whenever, wherever, while others need someone else to be the first "brave" one to sing. The melody for our anthem is extremely challenging for even trained singers due to the crazy range it encompasses, so I understand why many people are reluctant to sing it. If you can't carry a tune in a bucket, no worries...sing it anyway if you feel moved to do so. Or simply stand quietly, hats off, and let the others sing it. :)

There's quite a bit of truth in many of these comments. Many performers will give their own twist to a song, but our national anthem should be recognizable. Some stylizing is fine, or group singing choral arrangements with different harmonies...but the version posted above renders the anthem virtually unrecognizable, as was Rosanne Barr's version a number of years back at a baseball game, or the version I heard "Xtina" perform a few years ago. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

This sums it up nicely.
 
best part of the Rose Bowl anthem was the cheerleader that was actially cupping her boob.