This. No one is saying Mueller is better than Metcalf, but to say that he didn't try is not a fair statement.
Metcalf antics
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This. No one is saying Mueller is better than Metcalf, but to say that he didn't try is not a fair statement.
Spin it however you want troll. How would you ever interpret the JO motion as "I sucked." If nothing else it is disrespectful to your coach if you do that to him. Not that I care if anyone disrespects that ape.
I didnt think it was directed at ISU or Mueller either. I really didnt. But it shouldnt have been done in plain view of everyone. I hate Metcalf but he is a competitor and i think he expected a better outcome. Was it uncalled for .... Yes. That shouldnt happen in plain view but I dont think it was directed at Mueller. It didnt appear to be anyways. Not saying it wasnt as I really dont know
You guys need to give Iowa some credit for being consistent. They have no class whether they win or lose.
Come on everybody. We all know that Metcalf has a lot of class. He has never acted up before......I mean look how well-behaved and what great sportsmanship he showed at last year's NCAA tourney......oh wait.
they grade on a curve over there...it's not like he raped someone while in High School.
Varner's been pulling similar antics this year as well, so it's not like it doesn't go both ways.
You guys would love Metcalf if he was a cyclone, just as Iowa fans would love to have Varner.
No. Plenty of people were ****** at Leonard Johnson last year (08) when he accumulated a couple of stupid personal fouls.
Not a good analogy. LJs stuff was detrimental to the team when he did it. This is an argument on sportsmanship that is going unpunished. Yes, Varner does some unsportsmanlike stuff, but he doesn't do things that are as offensive as Metcalf. Besides that, our coaches don't act like the Iowa coaches do. That's the problem. The coaches set the example.
The guy I quited was basically saying that we would love to have Metcalf because he is good. That we would look beyond his sportsmanship if he delivered wins. I'm saying we wouldn't.
Another example: Plenty of people didn't care for Curtis Stinson's sometimes antics on the basketball court even though he was an extreme talent.
On the other hand, Iowa wrestling fans (at least the ones that post here) defend Metcalf's actions.
I do love Metcalf's intensity and style of wrestling; the in your face non-stop action. However I hate what he did yesterday and it was completely uncalled for. That being said, you guys seem to be questioning the character of Iowa's staff when you have a wrestler, whom you seem to all love, get into an altercation over the summer with police and he was hardly even punished. Let's re-evaluate some things, clearly neither program is perfect and they both have an undying passion for winning. Iowa's staff is just more outwardly emotional than ISU's, take it for what it's worth I guess......
Honestly I'll take "bat-**** crazy" if that passion keeps winning. While I agree that winning with class is great, I think that a lot of this stuff is getting blown out of proportion after an emotional loss where there were a lot of swing matches decided by a point or 2. I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same had the Hawks lost........
....... and that is one of the big differences between ISU and UI fans. The majority of UI fans that post on this site didn't care about all the arrests with the football team and they don't care that there wrestling coach is a bafoon. It's so ingrained in the psyche of the hawks on this site that they can't believe that any other fan base would put honor and integrity before victory (see the multiple references to ISU fans would sing a different song if brands coached our team).
Metcalf is a great wrestler but he is a classless punk. don't like Varner pulling the crap either but let me know when Varner beats off on mat and shoves a guy after he loses.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Long get into a bit of trouble over the summer? Something to the tune of underage drinking, getting in a fight with a cop, possession of a fake ID. I realize UI's football has had a number of transgressions, but Long got little to no punishment for that.
If you are trying to equate Long's issue with the long string of hawk football issues (rape, assault, credit card theft, drug dealing, owi) then I have to just shake my head because there is no way we can have a meaningful conversation with such disparate points of view. I guess the fact that a few ISU athletes got into trouble gives hawks carte-blanche to wreak whatever havoc they would like and hawk fans can keep the moral "high ground"?
