Matt Campbell to Penn State??

[Nor'MidWester]

Because if you only make $6M a year living in Ames IA you can't afford to fly private. I'm sure Matt is loading up the minivan and driving 5 hours to see his family when he has 6 hours of free time from coaching major college football.

Yeah that whole reasoning from Pollard smelled like him covering his ass. That this whole thing was unavoidable because Campbell wanted to be closer to family... I'm sure Campbell will have much more free time and be under less stress at Penn State. Of course not, and Campbell won't try to refute that because he won't want to air their feud out in the open

 

[FinalFourCy]

OMG, those rumors regarding Pollard vs NIL vs Sukup are absolutely idiotic and childish. Who cares if they're true? Pollard has saved Iowa State on numerous occasions. His accounting prowess is second to none. What he's done is insurmountable. And we're about ready to embark on CyTown. Name one AD in the entire nation with the fiscal brain power to accomplish what he's accomplished. Those perpetrating and/or embellishing this rumor need to grow up.

Save ISU? You mean save ISU from his fuckups

He’s primarily a beancounter that has largely just benefited from the industry-wide increase in revenue, at a time with inherent growth of ISU (larger living alumni base and success under Orr, McCarney)


Despite having a generation, he hasn’t moved ISU up in revenue compared to peers, let alone desired peers. Or in brand value, which is why we’re still in need of saving. He hasn’t grown the donor base or culture. It took decades to figure out CyTown, something high schoolers have the “fiscal brain power” to accomplish

He’s made good hires. And he’s made historically bad hires.

ISU is bigger than CMC, and it is certainly bigger than JP.

He was mediocre overall before NIL, but his handling of it has really cemented him as an accountant in a time in which we need more

 

[IcSyU]

Save ISU? You mean save ISU from his fuckups

He’s primarily a beancounter that has largely just rode the industry-wide increase in revenue, and the inherent growth of ISU (larger living alumni base and success under Orr, McCarney)


Despite having a generation, he hasn’t moved ISU up in revenue compared to any peer, or in brand, which is why we’re still in need of saving. He hasn’t grown the donor base or culture. It took decades to figure out CyTown, something high schoolers have the “fiscal brain power” to accomplish

He’s made good hires. And he’s made historically bad hires.

ISU is bigger than CMC, and it is certainly bigger than JP.

He was mediocre overall before NIL, but his handling of it has really cemented him as an accountant in a time in which we need more

NIL he has work to do but most of your post is total ******** objectively.

Crediting Orr and McCarney for the AD being the strongest right now its probably ever been is incredibly disingenuous to those contributing right now.

The donor base hasn't grown? Then why does the Cyclone Club set a new record every year that outpaces inflation for donations? Why are season tickets significantly higher than they have been historically? Why have we (so far at least) bucked the nationwide trend of attendance falling off even though ticket prices have skyrocketed? That's culture.

If CyTown is so damn easy why isn't it something everyone has?

You have a point on the NIL but it totally gets lost because the rest of your "points" are complete and total ********.

We are not in a great spot right now....but we aren't Oregon State and Washington State. Or Cal. Or Stanford. We could be WAY worse off. We need saving like every school not named Notre Dame or holding B10/SEC membership.

 

[isufbcurt]

Post in thread 'Fire Pollard'
https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/fire-pollard.295952/post-10137650

This is a post by CF’s founder.

I will say that I joined the premium board to see Blum’s posts and came away convinced Pollard is handling NIL poorly.

But it’s important to remember that these people were close to this staff, some of whom had their lives turned over.

NIL at ISU is a FINITE resource, we don't have big boosters throwing millions to it so it has to be managed well.

Blum did a great job at We Will and has very good insights. But with the new revenue sharing cap of $20.5 for All athletes, I don't see why the AD shouldn't and wouldn't management that. That money is for ALL athletes and not just FB and BB players.

If basketball and football players want NIL funds on top of that then go earn the NIL like it was meant to be - being in a Fareway commercial like Audi, selling their merchandise brand, being in whatever commercial Konrardy is in.

I love Josh Jefferson and he is a stud for us, but the fact he got millions to just "be here and play basketball" is ******* stupid, that's not NIL. And this is exactly why me and others don't/won't donate to NIL.

NIL is me "hiring" an athlete to advertise my CPA firm, not me "giving" an athlete $10K to just stay and play at ISU.

So the coaches can be mad that "their" guys aren't getting more than athletes in other sports, but that's being pretty selfish. If their guys want more NIL then go ******* earn it. And if that coach don't want to be part of the athletic department and University as a whole then go ahead and leave.

End Rant.

 

[Cloneon]

NIL he has work to do but most of your post is total ******** objectively.

Crediting Orr and McCarney for the AD being the strongest right now its probably ever been is incredibly disingenuous to those contributing right now.

The donor base hasn't grown? Then why does the Cyclone Club set a new record every year that outpaces inflation for donations? Why are season tickets significantly higher than they have been historically? Why have we (so far at least) bucked the nationwide trend of attendance falling off even though ticket prices have skyrocketed? That's culture.

If CyTown is so damn easy why isn't it something everyone has?

You have a point on the NIL but it totally gets lost because the rest of your "points" are complete and total ********.

We are not in a great spot right now....but we aren't Oregon State and Washington State. Or Cal. Or Stanford. We could be WAY worse off. We need saving like every school not named Notre Dame or holding B10/SEC membership.

This and how soon people forget we were really close to being in the Big East. It was Pollard's cool head and reasoning, that the B12 even exists today.

 

[Newell]

I see a lot of people saying he had better win, what is the worst that could happen? He goes to Penn State makes $10 million a year on a five year contract and then if he is fired, they all land on their feet and take another P4 job. At worst he becomes a high paid asst. coach for a year or two before he gets another opportunity. The question is Campbell the type of coach that can be successful at a school like Penn State, worse coaches have national titles at other schools, hell look at LSU and Auburn.

That's true but LSU fired two coaches who won the national championship and Campbell with his money is one of the richest people in Northwest Iowa. He doesn't need the money. I have no ill will but not sure he fully comprehends what he is walking into.

 

[Marcelason78]

Or maybe you’d listen to Blum who is clearly sounding the alarm.

What Blum alarm are you referring to? I’ve seen him make one reference to how basketball tournament money could have been distributed.

This is all about an $80+million salary and $40 million in NIL at a football school. What exactly is Pollard, Blum, or anybody else at Iowa State going to do to keep Campbell ‘happy’ when that kind of money is the reality that they are up against?

 

[Cyrealist]

What would be the point of meeting the president of the university if he had already decided to leave? What?

Same reason you'd meet up with your girlfriend rather than breaking up over text.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Same reason you'd meet up with your girlfriend rather than breaking up over text.

For one last...OOPS! Family forum! / sarcasm

 

[Cyrealist]

If Matt is not a perennial playoff contender and doesn't beat Ohio State/Michigan/Oregon, he'll be gone in four years time

Franklin wasn't setting the world on fire and he was there for 11 years.

 

[MeowingCows]

Franklin wasn't setting the world on fire and he was there for 11 years.

Most of that was pre-NIL. A few years into NIL without those wins, he's gone. Things are different now.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Franklin wasn't setting the world on fire and he was there for 11 years.

If the over / under on years Campbell will be @ Penn State is 11, I am taking the under. He is more likely to be receiving severance pay within his first 8 years.

 

[Cyrealist]

If the over / under on years Campbell will be @ Penn State is 11, I am taking the under. He is more likely to be receiving severance pay within his first 8 years.

Since the average tenure is 4 years, that bet would require odds.

 

[Cy4All]

After the nights rest I'm starting to feel better about this whole thing. Matt left this place way better than he found it, didn't leave/get fired after a bad season, didn't leave the cupboard bare of players with everyone graduating (yet to be seen what happens in the transfer portal).

It seems he had maxed out what he could accomplish here. While Matt was the best coach in ISU history he definitely has his shortcomings as a coach. He never seemed to understand urgency when your down in the 4th quarter. Preaches about winning in the margins while treating special teams like an after thought.

Campbell leaving on his own accord after a relatively successful season is much better than what Okie State, TCU, or K-State went through.

Overall I think this could be good for Iowa State. Get some new blood and philosophy into the program that is in an upward trajectory. I don't see how this ends well for Campbell. He will have to completely change his coaching/team building philosophy. With his pay and severance package he will make as much in 3-4 years there as he would in 10 years here. So maybe that's the plan.

If the Jimmy Roger's project doesn't work out maybe by the time Campbell is released by Penn State and has some family time we'll be ready too. Having learnt something and grown from this experience he can come home to retire.

Of course I thought we were primed to take the next step forward when we moved on from Mcarney, who had seemingly maxed out what he could accomplish. And we all know how that worked out. So I may just be an optimist.

 

[1TwistedCyclone]

Money talks
But it can't sing and dance and it can't walk

 

[Agclone91]

If the over / under on years Campbell will be @ Penn State is 11, I am taking the under. He is more likely to be receiving severance pay within his first 8 years.

Regardless of how long he is there, I think this is his last college job. He's either there 25 years with multiple championships or suffers the same fate as Franklin and goes to the NFL.