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The RT overall opinion tends to be relatively close to how I feel on movies with a few exceptions. However, I will say my opinion tends to be higher correlated to the RT audience scores than the critic ones anymore.
Critic score generally tells you if it's quality plot, script, visually...audience tells you if it's entertaining.
 
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So, I watched last night's episode and wow, that was not what I expected. During the first 2/3 of the episode, I was kind of digging the new historical aspect of things, but was kind of surprised how long and deep it was going into it. During it all, I kept thinking that this is only a 6 episode series, we are already on episode 5, and we keep digging deeper and deeper into an episode completely devoid of either Kamala or all her friends we've fallen in love with through this series. Then comes the last 1/3 of the episode where I kept thinking "wat??". This is seriously where they are going with all of this and how a lot of these new character storylines are wrapping up??? Consequently, I found the last 1/3 to be borderline terrible and extremely rushed. I'm not even mentioning seeing some of the worst CGI I've seen in any MCU project. On top of all of this, I'm now left completely baffled as to how it is even possible to wrap this series up in any satisfactory manner with only 1 episode to go. Maybe they will prove me wrong, but how many times have we found ourselves in this same unsure place on most the recent MCU Disney+ shows going into their final episodes, only to walk away from the series wholly unsatisfied? Anyway, those are just my thoughts. I'd be lying if I said this episode didn't give me a sour taste if my mouth for a series I was fairly digging up until this point.

Episode 5 was not a winner. Rushed, like you said. The whole Pakistan thing just ends in the blink of an eye. Somehow, Kamran has powers now (from his mom's doing, maybe?), and somehow we're supposed to care about wrapping up with Damage Control, who we haven't really seen much of at all. It's hard to see any sort of satisfying conclusion from here.
 
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Let's just be honest and this can change. Marvel is great at movies with few exceptions. Bad at TV with few exceptions. I think it was a mistake to start doing these series' for Disney+.
 
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Let's just be honest and this can change. Marvel is great at movies with few exceptions. Bad at TV with few exceptions. I think it was a mistake to start doing these series' for Disney+.

I'm still glad they have gone the Disney+ route. However, they do need to start finally figuring stuff out over there.
 
lol MC is high on movies I hate and low on movies i like. RT if you average out their critic score and fan score is usually spot on with a few exceptions like review bombers. Either way give me RT over MC any day.
The benefit of Metacritic's system is a much more nuanced score. While Rotten Tomatoes tells you the degree of consensus amongst critics, Metacritic actually provides a better indication of quality beyond rotten/fresh. The weighting also ensures that the curve isn't thrown by critics that have a tendency of being overly positive or overly negative. The smaller pool of sources also means every review is the cream of the crop and not subject to any questionable sources.

It's just misleading to me when you see trailers and it says 'CERTIFIED 100% FRESH!' from RT because people will see that and think the movie is amazing...when there's a chance it's actually just average. If you have 100 RT critic's review a movie and all of them score it a 66 out of 100...it's deemed '100% fresh'...is 66/100 a good score? I say no. That's an average movie at best.

But happy you find RT worthwhile, there are many that love it.
 
saw it last night
I want to nothing about it. I haven’t seen the trailer or read a thing about it because I want the full effect. However, I’m taking my 7yo. How kid friendly is it? Anything to be aware of? Anything like DS2 on the creepy scale?
 
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I want to nothing about it. I haven’t seen the trailer or read a thing about it because I want the full effect. However, I’m taking my 7yo. How kid friendly is it? Anything to be aware of? Anything like DS2 on the creepy scale?
If they've seen the other Thor's they won't have a problem. And if they have seen DS2 they REALLY won't have a problem. Gorr the God Butcher is kind of scary, which is to be expected right...he's a butcher so there are violent parts. If they've seen other Marvel movies I think they'll be fine. I say this as someone that was very young watching Halloween and Exorcist so my opinion might be skewed ha. But again...if they've seen other Marvel stuff I think they'll be fine.
 
If they've seen the other Thor's they won't have a problem. And if they have seen DS2 they REALLY won't have a problem. Gorr the God Butcher is kind of scary, which is to be expected right...he's a butcher so there are violent parts. If they've seen other Marvel movies I think they'll be fine. I say this as someone that was very young watching Halloween and Exorcist so my opinion might be skewed ha. But again...if they've seen other Marvel stuff I think they'll be fine.
Thanks! Appreciated! I feel better about it. Not that I was too worried since I already bought the tickets. He didn’t quite make it through DS2 (dead possessed guy wrapped in demon spirits got to him) but he has seen almost all other MCU stuff. Pumped!!
 
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Thanks! Appreciated! I feel better about it. Not that I was too worried since I already bought the tickets. He didn’t quite make it through DS2 (dead possessed guy wrapped in demon spirits got to him) but he has seen almost all other MCU stuff. Pumped!!
Not giving anything away but he'll love the goats. That's all I'll say. :)
 
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Thanks! Appreciated! I feel better about it. Not that I was too worried since I already bought the tickets. He didn’t quite make it through DS2 (dead possessed guy wrapped in demon spirits got to him) but he has seen almost all other MCU stuff. Pumped!!
There is zero shame in a kid being frightened at all during DS2. That movie scared me at parts.
 
There is zero shame in a kid being frightened at all during DS2. That movie scared me at parts.
I am still shocked at how dark that was. When she started crawling out of that mirror, all mangled up, I was like “no freaking way…….”
 
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I'm still glad they have gone the Disney+ route. However, they do need to start finally figuring stuff out over there.

IMO the TV shows have kind of sapped my thirst for the MCU. I still haven't actually finished the Eternals. I just stopped when I got too bored. DS2 I haven't watched. It's right there on D+, I could watch it any time, I'm just not. Haven't gotten tickets for Thor yet, and Ragnarok might be my favorite MCU movie. They gotta be careful here.
 
So, I watched last night's episode and wow, that was not what I expected. During the first 2/3 of the episode, I was kind of digging the new historical aspect of things, but was kind of surprised how long and deep it was going into it. During it all, I kept thinking that this is only a 6 episode series, we are already on episode 5, and we keep digging deeper and deeper into an episode completely devoid of either Kamala or all her friends we've fallen in love with through this series. Then comes the last 1/3 of the episode where I kept thinking "wat??". This is seriously where they are going with all of this and how a lot of these new character storylines are wrapping up??? Consequently, I found the last 1/3 to be borderline terrible and extremely rushed. I'm not even mentioning seeing some of the worst CGI I've seen in any MCU project. On top of all of this, I'm now left completely baffled as to how it is even possible to wrap this series up in any satisfactory manner with only 1 episode to go. Maybe they will prove me wrong, but how many times have we found ourselves in this same unsure place on most the recent MCU Disney+ shows going into their final episodes, only to walk away from the series wholly unsatisfied? Anyway, those are just my thoughts. I'd be lying if I said this episode didn't give me a sour taste if my mouth for a series I was fairly digging up until this point.
Rushed and unsatisfying is basically how I would describe all of these disney+ shows. For every single one, (besides Hawkeye maybe, I hardly remember that one), I'm always surprised when I think we have 3 or 4 episodes left and find out there's only 1. They start off good to great, reel us in with these huge set ups and hinting at "bigger things", than try to pay everything off in the last 20 minutes of the finale, and usually fail.

I was initially under the impression that these would be Marvel movies, only stretched out so they could really explore the characters and play around with some concepts. It's like they're trying to make a Band of Brothers/Chernobyl type miniseries, but using writers from the CW. If they want a tv show, make a tv show, if they want a mini series, make a miniseries if they want a movie, make a movie, these have been a weird mixture of each and it's suffering for it.
 
IMO the TV shows have kind of sapped my thirst for the MCU. I still haven't actually finished the Eternals. I just stopped when I got too bored. DS2 I haven't watched. It's right there on D+, I could watch it any time, I'm just not. Haven't gotten tickets for Thor yet, and Ragnarok might be my favorite MCU movie. They gotta be careful here.
It's over-saturation and I've been saying it for a while. We still go to the theaters for these because my better half loves them, but even he (like you) is now 'meh' on the TV shows and if I ask him to remind me what story arc was in what movie he admitted 'i can't remember....there's too many'.
 
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