Marial Shayok Commits to ISU

The team last year was far different from this one and the next one. For one, Lard is a much more impactful presence around the rim and at this point, he's more skilled around the basket. For me, it comes down to shooting. Young will have to be a sufficient shooting threat who can shoot 35% from 3 to maintain his minutes. This isn't a knock on him but when you start looking at what he does really well, it's hard to find. He can separate himself from Jacobsen by being a real shooting threat. Outside of that, I don't think they are much different. However, then you start looking at guys like Lewis, Griffin and Horton. Can he shoot as well as Lewis and can he be a versatile on defense? Can he shore like Horton? Is Griffin going to rebound and defend similar to Young while being a little more versatile? Obviously we don't know those answers right now and I wouldn't even say he's in danger but there are guys coming who are going to force him to develop and I think his shooting is the obvious place for him to solidify himself.

Lmao, you're literally saying Solomon Young needs to shoot a certain % from 3 to keep his job?

That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in quite sometime.
 
I would be okay if Solomon shot 0% from 3 for the rest of the season! We need him getting the ball near the basket.

That's where I'm at. I'd rather have him be really reliable with the occasional shot from 15-18 and do most of his work around the basket than worry about him being decent from 3. Solo is on pace for ~30 three point attempts this year and I don't see that increasing drastically next season. Even if it goes to 60, the difference between 20% and 35% is 9 makes. Those would certainly be nice to have but spread over thirty-some games it's not really worth getting worked up over and I don't think it's a major factor in discussing his playing time at this point, especially when we don't KNOW if Jacobsen is actually going to be vastly better. If I'm looking for a percentage to go up, I'm more concerned about his free throws than his 3's. For the record, I think both improve as he matures and gains confidence.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: isu2014
Pretty sure this quote is preseason or from early in the year when Beverly was still starting and Lard wasnt a starter yet. I don't think Prohm was necessarily elevating Jacobson over Young in that statement.

he just said something recently about it I believe. Could be wrong though.
 
That's where I'm at. I'd rather have him be really reliable with the occasional shot from 15-18 and do most of his work around the basket than worry about him being decent from 3. Solo is on pace for ~30 three point attempts this year and I don't see that increasing drastically next season. Even if it goes to 60, the difference between 20% and 35% is 9 makes. Those would certainly be nice to have but spread over thirty-some games it's not really worth getting worked up over and I don't think it's a major factor in discussing his playing time at this point, especially when we don't KNOW if Jacobsen is actually going to be vastly better. If I'm looking for a percentage to go up, I'm more concerned about his free throws than his 3's. For the record, I think both improve as he matures and gains confidence.


I heard an interview with Solomon where he talked about working on his 3, so it seems that he wants to be taking them. However, I don't really want him to be doing it, except as a way to pull a defender away from the basket.
 
That's where I'm at. I'd rather have him be really reliable with the occasional shot from 15-18 and do most of his work around the basket than worry about him being decent from 3. Solo is on pace for ~30 three point attempts this year and I don't see that increasing drastically next season. Even if it goes to 60, the difference between 20% and 35% is 9 makes. Those would certainly be nice to have but spread over thirty-some games it's not really worth getting worked up over and I don't think it's a major factor in discussing his playing time at this point, especially when we don't KNOW if Jacobsen is actually going to be vastly better. If I'm looking for a percentage to go up, I'm more concerned about his free throws than his 3's. For the record, I think both improve as he matures and gains confidence.

That's so wrong. The difference is 9 makes plus you cannot let a 35% guy get that shot off. At 20%, you let them go all day. It opens the floor, it pressures his guy to defend the perimeter, it changes how they have to defend him on the PNR, it changes how many bodies are inside with Lard, it changes on how hard his guy can help on the other guys on the perimeter in various situations, and it changes the personnel another team can defend him with. Right now, it doesn't matter if he's outside. You let him shoot until his hearts content. If he's shooting somewhere north of 33% or so, you can't let that happen, not to mention if you do, we will be more productive. That 4th guy being able to shoot is a really big deal in today's game, especially with an offense based on movement. Right now, that option isn't on the bench so he's fine. Next year, that may not be the case.
 
Listen to the Cyclone Insider from 1-10. Randy says that a few days before they were talking to Prohm for a half hour on the side and Prohm was talking about how much he loves Jacobson and said that he would be starting.
 
Listen to the Cyclone Insider from 1-10. Randy says that a few days before they were talking to Prohm for a half hour on the side and Prohm was talking about how much he loves Jacobson and said that he would be starting.

giphy.gif
 
That's so wrong. The difference is 9 makes plus you cannot let a 35% guy get that shot off. At 20%, you let them go all day. It opens the floor, it pressures his guy to defend the perimeter, it changes how they have to defend him on the PNR, it changes how many bodies are inside with Lard, it changes on how hard his guy can help on the other guys on the perimeter in various situations, and it changes the personnel another team can defend him with. Right now, it doesn't matter if he's outside. You let him shoot until his hearts content. If he's shooting somewhere north of 33% or so, you can't let that happen, not to mention if you do, we will be more productive. That 4th guy being able to shoot is a really big deal in today's game, especially with an offense based on movement. Right now, that option isn't on the bench so he's fine. Next year, that may not be the case.
Agreed.

Even a 30% 3 percentage starts to have to be respected. That is like 45% from 2 and you wouldn't let a guy who shoots 45% from 15 feet take them uncontested all night long.
 
That's so wrong. The difference is 9 makes plus you cannot let a 35% guy get that shot off. At 20%, you let them go all day. It opens the floor, it pressures his guy to defend the perimeter, it changes how they have to defend him on the PNR, it changes how many bodies are inside with Lard, it changes on how hard his guy can help on the other guys on the perimeter in various situations, and it changes the personnel another team can defend him with. Right now, it doesn't matter if he's outside. You let him shoot until his hearts content. If he's shooting somewhere north of 33% or so, you can't let that happen, not to mention if you do, we will be more productive. That 4th guy being able to shoot is a really big deal in today's game, especially with an offense based on movement. Right now, that option isn't on the bench so he's fine. Next year, that may not be the case.

Youre overthinking things. He averages around 1 3-pt attempt per game. Him chucking up 3s next year isnt going to make or break our season.
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: isu2014
Youre overthinking things. He averages around 1 3-pt attempt per game. Him chucking up 3s next year isnt going to make or break our season.
He isn't overthinking it. Having a real threat at that position totally changes how teams have to defend. And if they don't change in a game he will be attempting a lot more than 1 three in that game.
 
15 shots isn't even a real sample size to determine anything.

So let's say he makes even 2 more of them, he's up to 33% instead of 20, now let's say 2 of his misses were just bad luck that bounced in and out, so all of a sudden he needs to be guarded closely at the 3 point line instead of sagging off on him?

Makes no sense. If he had chucked up 40 or 50 by now it might be a different story.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Cyclonepride

Latest posts

Help Support Us

Become a patron