Lane Splitting - Stupid MN law

Overall I agree, but for some reason northbound I35 between Albert Lea and the southern MSP suburbs are filled with MN drivers in the left lane. It drives me nuts.
And they set their cruise at speed limit. Then when they pass truck it's like a 4 mile process.

Speedup to pass them get out of the lane you morons.
 
And I will also never understand how there can not be a helmet law. I’d think the likelihood of not getting hurt with no seatbelt in a car would be far more likely than falling off a motorcycle without a helmet on
My daughter needs a lung transplant. I have no problem with kiling themselves, we need more donors.
 
Some moron was doing this on the interstate in Cali and was pissed because I shifted like a foot and almost turned him into a grease spot. Then he tried to brake check me. I kinda wanted to abide his death wish but I had places to be.
I almost took out a motorcycle cop in Cali doing this. He did not have his lights on and traffic was already 5-10 over the speed limit. I just cleared a car and was getting ready to change lanes and he came flying up on my right.

I couldn't have missed him by a foot.

He never pulled me over, so I can only assume he knew he did something stupid. That, or he crapped his pants and didn't want to make that fact known.
 
Colorado just implemented this as well. . Some riders have misinterpreted the law and think they can split lanes at any speed. So stupid and unsafe
They know the law, they just refuse to follow it. I've seen motorcycles split traffic on I-80 in Omaha at 100+
I've had my motorcycle endorsement since 1977 and seeing riders split lanes when traffic is moving just fine irritates me to no end.

A few years ago we had an idiot going 100 in a 40-45 zone that died when he rear ended a trailer that was stopped at a stop light. His family was whining that there should have been a sign warning him that there was a stoplight. He didn't pay any attention to the signs with the speed limit so why would he have paid attention to that sign?

I see videos online of idiots speeding through traffic, these are the same people that claim someone just pulled out in front of them.
 
I will say that in Iowa motorcyclists have a strong presence at the capital lobbying, which is the reason we still don't have a helmet law. I would assume it is the same in other states in regards to a strong and active coalition of motorcyclists and why there are laws like this being passed.
 
I don’t have an issue with this being 15 or 25 mph. But what’s the likelihood of that? I’ve seen lane splitters doing highway speeds through stopped traffic.

But again, who’s responsible for yielding when changing lanes? At stopped or slow moving traffic, a lane change may take some time. So if you’re stopped between lanes, are you at fault if hit by a motorcycle?
 
I'll argue Iowans are worse at this than MN's. Honestly, as someone who lived in MN for 10 years, the drivers up there are so much better than Iowans. Most of the time when I'm in MN behind a left lane camper, it's someone from Iowa.
Minnesotans are better urban drivers. The ones on I-35 in rural areas are awful.
 
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I will say that in Iowa motorcyclists have a strong presence at the capital lobbying, which is the reason we still don't have a helmet law. I would assume it is the same in other states in regards to a strong and active coalition of motorcyclists and why there are laws like this being passed.

No issue with no helmets laws. They generally don’t affect me. What I would like is the insurance industry to be allowed to deny life insurance benefits to those that die when not wearing helmets. Feel similarly to seat belt laws. Don’t need the government to force you to be intelligent. But there has to be a penalty for stupidity.
 
I will say that in Iowa motorcyclists have a strong presence at the capital lobbying, which is the reason we still don't have a helmet law. I would assume it is the same in other states in regards to a strong and active coalition of motorcyclists and why there are laws like this being passed.
I think the real driver behind these laws is to appeal to alternate forms of transportation that take up less physical space on the roadways, thereby reducing congestion.

As cars and trucks get bigger, our congestion problems get worse. The fewer people commuting in large cities with cars or pickups, the better the traffic flow in theory.

That's the real motivator. Because a much smaller percentage of Iowans deal with traffic congestion in their daily lives compared to Minnesotans, there's less motivation for Iowa to look into a law like this.
 
No issue with no helmets laws. They generally don’t affect me. What I would like is the insurance industry to be allowed to deny life insurance benefits to those that die when not wearing helmets. Feel similarly to seat belt laws. Don’t need the government to force you to be intelligent. But there has to be a penalty for stupidity.
I am paying for the insurance. Presumably the insurance company charges more in states with no helmet laws and is willing to write the contract because they believe they will come out ahead. Help me understand why should I be penalized here? Do you want less laws, but prefer to use insurance companies and financial incentives to enforce moral / safe behaviors?

I wear a helmet, and I am generally in favor of behavioral discriminatory pricing (e.g. charge more for health insurance for smokers). But what business is it of yours (or the gvmt) if I have a contract between myself and another private entity?
 
So, is there a motorcycle lobby that is powerful enough to get this through?
 
Seems like if they had to do anything, they should have allowed motorcycles to use the shoulder during slow traffic, rather than lane-splitting.
 
I am paying for the insurance. Presumably the insurance company charges more in states with no helmet laws and is willing to write the contract because they believe they will come out ahead. Help me understand why should I be penalized here? Do you want less laws, but prefer to use insurance companies and financial incentives to enforce moral / safe behaviors?

I wear a helmet, and I am generally in favor of behavioral discriminatory pricing (e.g. charge more for health insurance for smokers). But what business is it of yours (or the gvmt) if I have a contract between myself and another private entity?

This is why I want insurance companies to have the ability to deny coverage when riders that are killed or injured without a helmet. Cause then it wouldn’t cost more for others. Or, have a no helmet wearing addition to a policy that’ll cover them if they are involved in an accident without a helmet. But let the insurance companies handle the bad behavior in a pointed way rather than charging everyone.
 
No issue with no helmets laws. They generally don’t affect me. What I would like is the insurance industry to be allowed to deny life insurance benefits to those that die when not wearing helmets. Feel similarly to seat belt laws. Don’t need the government to force you to be intelligent. But there has to be a penalty for stupidity.

It’s not a penalty. Nobody should have to pay for other people’s foolish choices.
 
No issue with no helmets laws. They generally don’t affect me. What I would like is the insurance industry to be allowed to deny life insurance benefits to those that die when not wearing helmets. Feel similarly to seat belt laws. Don’t need the government to force you to be intelligent. But there has to be a penalty for stupidity.

I always think of this video when people are against seatbelts/helmets
 

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