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BryceC

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I do have a little inside information just as to Keshon's character. He is a perfectionist and holds himself and his teammates to a very high standard.

If you can't play to your own standards even if cleared to play, that's extremely difficult if that's who you are.

I think speculating on what kind of guy he is here is completely out of bounds. He hasn't been healthy for almost 3 months. I don't care who you are that's just brutal.
 

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Shredded? You went through a bunch of scenarios as fact and seemed to make a bunch of conclusions without evidence.

And do they reference any actual evidence that leads to it being an opt out?

Re: comparing Higgins to this situation: was Higgins hobbling around and unable to play more than a few series in football?

And lastly, Randy Peterson hahahahahahahahaha.
As I listened to Peterson, and all I hear were supposition and innuendo. No solid source, no specific information. My conclusion from the podcast was Peterson is retired and should stay that way. Some people don't know when to leave.
 

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I do have a little inside information just as to Keshon's character. He is a perfectionist and holds himself and his teammates to a very high standard.

If you can't play to your own standards even if cleared to play, that's extremely difficult if that's who you are.

I think speculating on what kind of guy he is here is completely out of bounds. He hasn't been healthy for almost 3 months. I don't care who you are that's just brutal.
From a player personnel standpoint, it’s not like he would be taking a needed roster spot.

If he’s able to go, He should at least be in uniform for the Sweet 16 and beyond.

There is always the possibility of foul trouble or injury or down 6 with 1:00 to play.

Anything can happen to the regular guys and he can still shoot 3’s and Free Throws.

That seems logical….at least from my vantage point.
 

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I feel a lot of this falls on how TJ treats the importance of practice and preparation. If you have to soley rest to be ready physically for the next game TJ has a hard time planning rotations and doesn't trust Keshon will be ready.
Also, I've noticed the past few weeks Keshon has been "taking plays off", meaning getting beat on plays that he usually doesn't and hasn't hustled back on D. He is definitely not healthy. Has tried to push through.
This is a mutual decision between TJ and Keshon. I only imagine Keshon wanted to play in games and TJ wants full participation practice and games.
If I can strap on a tin hat for a second, I'd say maybe there's some gamesmanship saying Keshon is out for the rest of the year. We advance another week, Keshon recovers, can go through a full week of practice and comes off the bench in the Final 4.
 

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Keshon was our most tenacious defender in a year when defense has not been the team's calling card. He was also the only real dribble penetration threat on the team. And, at times, he could be deadly from the arc. I don't see how anyone can view us as a Final Four threat with that kind of player out and gone. I think we should be thrilled to get to the second weekend and that's about it.
 

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I feel a lot of this falls on how TJ treats the importance of practice and preparation. If you have to soley rest to be ready physically for the next game TJ has a hard time planning rotations and doesn't trust Keshon will be ready.
Also, I've noticed the past few weeks Keshon has been "taking plays off", meaning getting beat on plays that he usually doesn't and hasn't hustled back on D. He is definitely not healthy. Has tried to push through.
This is a mutual decision between TJ and Keshon. I only imagine Keshon wanted to play in games and TJ wants full participation practice and games.
If I can strap on a tin hat for a second, I'd say maybe there's some gamesmanship saying Keshon is out for the rest of the year. We advance another week, Keshon recovers, can go through a full week of practice and comes off the bench in the Final 4.
I’d be all for that!
 

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KG played 43 minutes and had eight steals in our double-overtime game on March 4. But yes, he's only concerned about himself :rolleyes:
There is no reply from the OP on KG, so he has nothing besides a drive by statement with no reason expect to disparage KG.
summary was Pete feels Key did what college football guys are doing and opted out of the ncaa tourney. He also asked “for what? A little money in the G league? He’s not going to be playing in the NBA is he?” He said that he is missing the best part of basketball that is March madness and CW said this may taint fans memory of him.
Hope that helps.
 

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For the love of god, let this thread die and move on. We may only have 72 hours left this season. We can spend the entire off season arguing about KG. Its **** Lipscomb time.
If Lipscomb is our last game of the season, oooh boy.

How much is there to talk about Lipscomb? You a player who needs to be focused on the game or something?
 
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There is no reply from the OP on KG, so he has nothing besides a drive by statement with no reason expect to disparage KG.

summary was Pete feels Key did what college football guys are doing and opted out of the ncaa tourney. He also asked “for what? A little money in the G league? He’s not going to be playing in the NBA is he?” He said that he is missing the best part of basketball that is March madness and CW said this may taint fans memory of him.
Hope that helps.

If it taints fans memory of him, who cares.

Tyrese Hunter after being the conference freshman of the year and being point guard of a thrown together group to help TJ have a wildly successful first season.......was labeled a traitor by this website because he wanted, wait for it........money.

I am not calling KG any of that. He's hurt.....he's hurt. However, if there is more......good bye.
 

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There is no reply from the OP on KG, so he has nothing besides a drive by statement with no reason expect to disparage KG.

summary was Pete feels Key did what college football guys are doing and opted out of the ncaa tourney. He also asked “for what? A little money in the G league? He’s not going to be playing in the NBA is he?” He said that he is missing the best part of basketball that is March madness and CW said this may taint fans memory of him.
Hope that helps.
Is this just speculation from Randy Peterson? I'd be surprised if this were true. As of now, he's not projected to get drafted. By playing in the tournament he can only improve his draft prospects even if he's playing hurt. I do think there's more to this story than what we're hearing, but it's dangerous to start speculating.
 
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Is this just speculation from Randy Peterson? I'd be surprised if this were true. As of now, he's not projected to get drafted. By playing in the tournament he can only improve his draft prospects even if he's playing hurt. I do think there's more to this story than what we're hearing, but it's dangerous to start speculating.
KG has not improved his stock the last few months. Him putting in more time if not 100% doesn’t help him or ISU’s goals.
 
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I do have a little inside information just as to Keshon's character. He is a perfectionist and holds himself and his teammates to a very high standard.

If you can't play to your own standards even if cleared to play, that's extremely difficult if that's who you are.

I think speculating on what kind of guy he is here is completely out of bounds. He hasn't been healthy for almost 3 months. I don't care who you are that's just brutal.
Keshon is one of the best to come to ISU. We have been lucky to have him, watch him play, and call him a Cyclone. Forever.

I don't think we question Keshon, or should question him. He has done nothing but give us his best! My feeling is that he would be playing if he was healthy. He is not. He tried to come back the game before last. This would not happen if he was benched, like some are alluding to.

Hopefully the team, and some of the younger players maybe even, pick up for him and we take it to the 2nd weekend. Who knows after that?
 

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As I listened to Peterson, and all I hear were supposition and innuendo. No solid source, no specific information. My conclusion from the podcast was Peterson is retired and should stay that way. Some people don't know when to leave.
Randy retired, unretired now. Make up your mind.
 

t-noah

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I feel a lot of this falls on how TJ treats the importance of practice and preparation. If you have to soley rest to be ready physically for the next game TJ has a hard time planning rotations and doesn't trust Keshon will be ready.
Also, I've noticed the past few weeks Keshon has been "taking plays off", meaning getting beat on plays that he usually doesn't and hasn't hustled back on D. He is definitely not healthy. Has tried to push through.
This is a mutual decision between TJ and Keshon. I only imagine Keshon wanted to play in games and TJ wants full participation practice and games.
If I can strap on a tin hat for a second, I'd say maybe there's some gamesmanship saying Keshon is out for the rest of the year. We advance another week, Keshon recovers, can go through a full week of practice and comes off the bench in the Final 4.
Now you're talkin'!
 

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There is no reply from the OP on KG, so he has nothing besides a drive by statement with no reason expect to disparage KG.

summary was Pete feels Key did what college football guys are doing and opted out of the ncaa tourney. He also asked “for what? A little money in the G league? He’s not going to be playing in the NBA is he?” He said that he is missing the best part of basketball that is March madness and CW said this may taint fans memory of him.
Hope that helps.
I think I'm glad I didn't hear this. I'm better for it.
 
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If Lipscomb is our last game of the season, oooh boy.

How much is there to talk about Lipscomb? You a player who needs to be focused on the game or something?
Haha, yes. We are not losing to Lipscomb. Miss. or UNC might be more of a challenge.
 

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You tore me to shreds in the other thread for suggesting this is anything other than injury related. Feel free to listen and come to your own conclusion.

Chris and Randy, who are both extremely close to the program, compared this to an opt out for a football bowl game.

Between TJs behavior and attitude towards this entire thing, and the reports from people extremely close to the program, think what you want...I could not care less. I for one am just bothered by the folks "thanking Keshon for everything."

Just think it is an important listen and dont mind giving Iowa Everywhere a plug.

For what it is worth, My sources align with what he and Frak are saying.

Keshon’s dad was overly involved and not in a good way.
 
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