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K-State looses (another) AD

That has to be one of the worst-run athletic departments in the country over the past 5 years or so.

And wtf is "looses"?
 
i was about ready to say the same thing.......wtf is "looses"? he he

but anyway, i have heard that the administration down there is full of a bunch of a-holes. i still think people are gonna be disappointed when snyder does no better than prince did......
 
That has to be one of the worst-run athletic departments in the country over the past 5 years or so.
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Have you seen or win/loss record in football and basketball? The fact that we fired Wayne Morgan because of a minor scandel. The fact that we fired our most succesfull football coach ever.
The fact that they guy who replaced him left the school after losing 10 straigh games and only winning 5 games in 2 years.
The fact that our basketball program has won on the road 4 times with our current coach who is going on year 3.

I wonder what they are saying about our athletic department.
 
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Possibly related to the fact they're in the middle of the search for the new president? IIRC, the current guy was an internal KSU appointment, had administrative experience but not necessarily a background in collegiate athletics. Could be wrong about that though. Wouldn't surprise me if he was seen as a short term hire from the beginning. Makes me wonder if Snyder is the same kind of deal - short term until new adminstration is completely in place?
 
Knownothing said:
Have you seen or win/loss record in football and basketball? The fact that we fired Wayne Morgan because of a minor scandel. The fact that we fired our most succesfull football coach ever.
The fact that they guy who replaced him left the school after losing 10 straigh games and only winning 5 games in 2 years.
The fact that our basketball program has won on the road 4 times with our current coach who is going on year 3.

I wonder what they are saying about our athletic department.
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Unfortunately, I agree with this statement until I see results.
 
Knownothing said:
Have you seen or win/loss record in football and basketball? The fact that we fired Wayne Morgan because of a minor scandel. The fact that we fired our most succesfull football coach ever.
The fact that they guy who replaced him left the school after losing 10 straigh games and only winning 5 games in 2 years.
The fact that our basketball program has won on the road 4 times with our current coach who is going on year 3.

I wonder what they are saying about our athletic department.
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For the 1,000,000,000th time...Morgan was not fired because of the D1 Scheduling article by Gregg Doyel...if that's the "minor scandel" you are referring to...
 
For the 1,000,000,000th time...Morgan was not fired because of the D1 Scheduling article by Gregg Doyel...if that's the "minor scandel" you are referring to...
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Well that is pretty much the excuse that was used. I understand what you are saying. However it's starting to look bad because the guy that replaced him has done a ton worse and he still is collecting a check.
 
K-State sold their soul to win hiring Huggins...he's a good coach...but the graduation rates and caliber of person he was bringing into Cincinnati was just atrocious..that's why Cincy let him go...K-State hired him knowing what they were getting, and when he split...instead of hiring a qualified coach, and doing a real coaching search...they hired an assistant with a very underwhelming resume just to keep Beasley, Walker, and Pullen...

Say what you want about McDermott and Pollard...but to compare them to K-State is a little unfair imo...at least they're trying to do it the right way...rip Mac for players leaving that he recruited if you want, or not going the juco route...but don't compare our athletic department to Kansas State's...
 
Who in their right mind would want to be an athletic director at a loser school like kstate....

Would YOU want Bill Snyder for your boss??? Thought so!!!:biglaugh:

I'm just waiting for the Jayhawks to go over to manhatten and knock the snot right outta those mildkats!!!!!:biglaugh:


btw kstate can kiss my botox!!!!!:biglaugh:
 
Huskerman, you should talk. The ultimate idiot--Harvey Perleman. Would you care to tell the ISU fans about this genius?
 
OK, things are not all roses in Manhattan. Because so few here are willing to do any research, I will tell you what is going on. John Wefald, university president, has been trying to micro manage the athletic department the last 5 years. Tim Weiser, former AD, quit because he was not allowed to do his job without interference. Wefald considered himself to be the ultimate guru when it came to hiring coaches. He had lucked out and hired Bill Snyder many years ago. He also hired Jim Wooldridge and Ron Prince just to prove that he should stay away from the athletic department. Wefald is finally retiring. He did a good job most of his years but has certainly slipped more and more the last few years. Can you imagine Geoffrey micromanaging the athletic department at ISU.

The AD that just left was a temporary position filler. No doubt the new president will want his own AD. I expect there will be more turnover in the next two years and things will return to normalcy.

CyBobby, why would you designate KU to do the butt kicking?
 
Trigger, you have your thoughts in order. I do not expect Bill Snyder to be a one or two year coach however unless he finds no support from the new president or AD. If Bill's team is not making progress year to year, he will ride off into the sunset on his own accord.

I do not think the average KSU fan spends any time thinking about the ISU athletic department. ISU has no real enemies except for Iowa. There is no hate for ISU within the Big 12. The Clones are most peoples second favorite team, including mine.
 
iowa_wildcat said:
OK, things are not all roses in Manhattan. Because so few here are willing to do any research, I will tell you what is going on. John Wefald, university president, has been trying to micro manage the athletic department the last 5 years. Tim Weiser, former AD, quit because he was not allowed to do his job without interference. Wefald considered himself to be the ultimate guru when it came to hiring coaches. He had lucked out and hired Bill Snyder many years ago. He also hired Jim Wooldridge and Ron Prince just to prove that he should stay away from the athletic department. Wefald is finally retiring. He did a good job most of his years but has certainly slipped more and more the last few years. Can you imagine Geoffrey micromanaging the athletic department at ISU.

The AD that just left was a temporary position filler. No doubt the new president will want his own AD. I expect there will be more turnover in the next two years and things will return to normalcy.

CyBobby, why would you designate KU to do the butt kicking?
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Iowa Wildcat- Thanks for the info. That's what I was trying to understand and was too lazy to do the research. From the outside looking in it looks pretty crazy down there.
 
iowa_wildcat said:
OK, things are not all roses in Manhattan. Because so few here are willing to do any research, I will tell you what is going on. John Wefald, university president, has been trying to micro manage the athletic department the last 5 years. Tim Weiser, former AD, quit because he was not allowed to do his job without interference. Wefald considered himself to be the ultimate guru when it came to hiring coaches. He had lucked out and hired Bill Snyder many years ago. He also hired Jim Wooldridge and Ron Prince just to prove that he should stay away from the athletic department. Wefald is finally retiring. He did a good job most of his years but has certainly slipped more and more the last few years. Can you imagine Geoffrey micromanaging the athletic department at ISU.

The AD that just left was a temporary position filler. No doubt the new president will want his own AD. I expect there will be more turnover in the next two years and things will return to normalcy.

CyBobby, why would you designate KU to do the butt kicking?
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So you're just confirming what everyone else is saying that the KSU athletic dept was being run poorly. Doesn't Kansas have a board of regents or something that the president has to answer to? It seems to me that if he's busy doing the AD's job he's probably not doing enough of his president's jobs. So maybe it's the entire school that's poorly run.
 
kucyclone said:
That has to be one of the worst-run athletic departments in the country over the past 5 years or so.
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One of, maybe.

What do you think they say when they see us fire the winningest football coach we've ever had only to go from 4 to 3 to 2 wins per year. Then fire a winning (and NCAA tournament) basketball coach only to become the worst team in the Big XII in not one, but both major revenue sports?

From the outside looking in, it may appear that the wheels have come off the athletic department at KSU. But outsiders looking in at ISU see the same thing.
 
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Wefald has had some great deans during his tenure at KSU. The academic and fund raising efforts are purring like a kitten. For example, KSU has the highest % of alumni donating on a yearly basis of the Big 12 schools. Sure many are like me and do not donate a lot but it adds up. By the way, I also donated to the ISU library fund. My two children are ISU grads. Wefald has grown emotional and a bit senile with age. He loves sports and has had entirely too much time on his hands.
 
I thought it was pretty funny to see Wefald hugging Mike Beasley after the KSU-KU game last year. I just don't think you'd see Geoffrey hugging Brackins after a big win or Bob Hemingway hugging Sherron Collins.
 
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