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Pollard likes the hills and the family atmosphere it brings so the nez is not changing any time soon. Especially with the work they just did with the walkways around. Personally I kinda wish Jacobson would be updated, just looks a little dated, mainly I want a tunnel for the team to come out of lol.
But with the current nil landscape and CyTown I don't see any "nice to haves" coming to JTS.
 

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I've been in the suites in Kinnick which are nice, I have never seen the suites in JTS, but I assume they are more bare bones than Kinnick. What do you get with a JTS suite?
 

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Pollard likes the hills and the family atmosphere it brings so the nez is not changing any time soon. Especially with the work they just did with the walkways around. Personally I kinda wish Jacobson would be updated, just looks a little dated, mainly I want a tunnel for the team to come out of lol.
But with the current nil landscape and CyTown I don't see any "nice to haves" coming to JTS.

The hillsides are a great introduction of ISU FB to young kids at a family friendly price point. Plus the kids have room to play (sort of) event though I don't have kids I still like pricing things for families hopefully instill their Fandom young and keep them as fans at the minimum and hopefully as students and then alumni afterwards. Just my opinion.
 

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I've been in the suites in Kinnick which are nice, I have never seen the suites in JTS, but I assume they are more bare bones than Kinnick. What do you get with a JTS suite?
 
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All this talk is fine but as a few others have mentioned numerous times (myself included) there is not going to be any facilities improvements for a very long time unless our billionaire bagman decides to pull a T. Boone and throw a few hundred million our way. No Hilton improvements, no expanded press box, no north endzone bowl, no small sport venue, no small sport training venues. Better hope for the best with Cytown or that we win a NC in football or basketball this year because we’re gonna be bare bones for the foreseeable future as far as facility investments go.
 

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All this talk is fine but as a few others have mentioned numerous times (myself included) there is not going to be any facilities improvements for a very long time unless our billionaire bagman decides to pull a T. Boone and throw a few hundred million our way. No Hilton improvements, no expanded press box, no north endzone bowl, no small sport venue, no small sport training venues. Better hope for the best with Cytown or that we win a NC in football or basketball this year because we’re gonna be bare bones for the foreseeable future as far as facility investments go.
Agree and we're really lucky so much got done the past decade to stay in the 1st world facilities wise
 

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My guessing is most people dont even pay attention to it. They have been that way as long as I remember, they may have been darker at one time, but its been so long I dont remember them actually not faded.

If they were painted you then will have people saying they are the wrong shade as we do everything else.

Probably should have went with natural gray bleachers, then there would not be an issue.
The original wooden bleacher seats installed in Notre Dame's stadium in 1930 weren't replaced enmasse until 2017. I think our 50 year old anodized aluminum bleachers are fine.
 

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The original wooden bleacher seats installed in Notre Dame's stadium in 1930 weren't replaced enmasse until 2017. I think our 50 year old anodized aluminum bleachers are fine.

And the aluminum ones at JTS aren't even original. They were installed around 1993.

The originals were some sort of plastic/fiberglass combination.
 

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Isn’t it already ADA compliant?
Not at all. Target Center was built in 1990 and they still had to just about quadruple their ADA seating on the lower concourse level when the renovated about 8 years ago to comply with current ADA standards.

If you spend any money renovating seating you are going to be opening up a huge can of ADA worms. Keep in mind seats on the lower deck are going to be tough to make wheelchair compliant and you need to provide comparable accessible seats in the highest price level so that means something in the first rows on the sides. How are you going to economically do that?
 
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You would lose 10K if you did the entire stadium, but only doing the east and west sides, say 30 to 30 yard line would not lose anywhere near that number of seats. We seat 5K in the South end zone in seats, I doubt if those seats were metal bleachers we would pick up more than a thousand or two seats.
Sukup is the only part of the SEZ with individual seats and it only seats 3K.
 
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I think you're probably right, but whenever I look at the back side I always wonder if it was built/planned with the ability for it to be expanded without additional ground structures being needed. Something like an additional 30% to 50%.
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Would also need to add at least one additional elevator, probably at least one passenger and one hospital freight for food service. The existing is already over capacity with just press usage and if they have a gameday failure...look out.
 

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Not at all. Target Center was built in 1990 and they still had to just about quadruple their ADA seating on the lower concourse level when the renovated about 8 years ago to comply with current ADA standards.

If you spend any money renovating seating you are going to be opening up a huge can of ADA worms. Keep in mind seats on the lower deck are going to be tough to make wheelchair compliant and you need to provide comparable accessible seats in the highest price level so that means something in the first rows on the sides. How are you going to economically do that?
You have to provide 1% of the seats to be within ADA standards, as long as the seats are in the lower level, you can have them at the top like we currently do, as long as they have a clear line of sight to the field. You must also provide space for on folding chair for a friend or family, to sit beside them.

Those seats do not have to be in the same area as the other seats of the family. So the family could be sitting on the 1st row and the handicapped person at the top with space for someone to sit with them. We used to take our daughter to games at both JTS and Wells Fargo in Des Moines, all of us never sat together, they must provide space for a wheel chair and one other person, but that can be separate from the rest of the group. Those seats must also be assessable to the concession stands and those at ISU currently are.

 
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I think a main reason the pressbox has never been replaced is because it'd have to effectively be a 7-story building just to reach the base level of the top of the upper deck, since the concourse is basically a manmade berm three stories in the air, then be 3-4 stories on top of that. That's an expensive 10-11 story building to put on the west side of the stadium. The only way to have justified that would have been to put most of the Stark Performance Center components also into a new pressbox structure on the west side too, which is very similar to what K-State did. Luckily for K-State tho, they have a concourse at ground level and no west upper deck, so their entire structure is only 6-7 stories compared to the 10-11 ours would have to be to have the same amount of suites up high.
 

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Sure within reason. Most of ADA compliance is an absolute joke. You can never make everyone happy
Happy? This is a matter of making sure people can exist and have a life worth living. For many who utilize ADA seating at ISU games, this may be the one good thing they get to do all week/month/year.
 

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West Virginia's stadium and Iowa State's stadium were originally built with the exact same design.

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Looks like when they added on their press box, they made it twice the width of ours.

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It was a similar design but it was modified from ISU's design before the WVU stadium was built. It may appear twice as wide but it is not. Note that ISU's upper deck sections are wider - there were 7 full width sections originally in the upper deck while WVU used 9 full width sections to span the same width. WVU's press box is 3 of their narrower sections wide while ISU's is almost 2 of JTS's wider sections wide.

The WVU press box is a bit wider but not twice as wide.
 
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