JP Shots at NCAA?
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I used to run the 800 and getting your rhythm thrown off like that can be disconcerting and affect your top performance. But it isn't as damning as in the 400 or shorter distances where you are going flat out the entire race (I also ran the 400). That being said, a trip in the 800 where you break stride and don't go down is nothing compared to being knocked to the ground in a pile and getting stepped on in the 10,000.
They run 48 at each regional. Having 27 (3 extra) at the national finals would not be a hindrance to the event
i don't think the woman who tripped or the males who fell should get any accommodations that would allow them to qualify. it is to bad, but it is a race, and things happen.
you could make an argument they should have positioned themselves better in the field to avoid this problem. they could have run in the wind in the front or off the back and given themselves space to avoid a collision. nobody talks about restarting the indy 500 if someone is taken out in a crash.
if they don't want the randomness of a race effect the outcomes than they could change the event to having one runner on the track at a time. imagine how boring that would be to watch 12 runners run 10k one at a time after each other.
now if you could prove that someone was taken out on purpose, well the offending runner or team should be punished, but that does not seem applicable to either of these instances.
you could make an argument they should have positioned themselves better in the field to avoid this problem. they could have run in the wind in the front or off the back and given themselves space to avoid a collision. nobody talks about restarting the indy 500 if someone is taken out in a crash.
if they don't want the randomness of a race effect the outcomes than they could change the event to having one runner on the track at a time. imagine how boring that would be to watch 12 runners run 10k one at a time after each other.
now if you could prove that someone was taken out on purpose, well the offending runner or team should be punished, but that does not seem applicable to either of these instances.
Pollard has done a great job of advocating for all athletes, whether they were his kid or not. Pollard did an excellent job of explaining the disparity in the NCAA decision where they show one female runner was obstructed but didn't even fall while three runners were wiped out and... nothing. He goes on to further explain that there wasn't even an NCAA representative present.
Runners (and competitors in other events as well) are regularly advanced when interfered with at many levels of competition. It happens all the time in professional T&F as well as Olympic competition.
I'm not going to say you're wrong because that is a legitimate argument, but the reason the women's 800m is brought up is because for one race they just shrugged their shoulders and said it happens and the other they made the accomodations to allow for her to qualify. Why weren't they both, is an extra runner in the 800 not an issue but it suddenly is in the 10k?
I'd understand if they used logistically hard to fit in an extra 30min race as the reason (it'd still be B's) but that isn't what was told.
Good for Jamie. What Jamie is calling foul on is absolutely deserved. 1 athlete from 1 school gets the "free pass to the next round." 3 athletes from other schools involved in a similar situation get denied. Either both go or neither go. You can not have judgment calls......that lead to the possibility of "persuasion" from outliers.
Iowa State had an athlete, who based on his times throughout the season, could have/ should have/ would have qualified for the finals. There was an incident that effected that athlete and caused him to not advance. Yes, incidents are part of the race and it happens, but when 1 athlete from 1 race gets an exemption while the other is denied is not fair or acceptable so Jamie is doing his job.
To further complicate it is it happened to occur to Thomas. So pompous people who are not willing to read Jamie's well wrote statement just assumed that Daddy is upset. We have seen in Jamie before that when a foul is made there is a time and place for him to speak up. That foul was made and Jamie is advocating on behalf of an athlete at his school.
Iowa State had an athlete, who based on his times throughout the season, could have/ should have/ would have qualified for the finals. There was an incident that effected that athlete and caused him to not advance. Yes, incidents are part of the race and it happens, but when 1 athlete from 1 race gets an exemption while the other is denied is not fair or acceptable so Jamie is doing his job.
To further complicate it is it happened to occur to Thomas. So pompous people who are not willing to read Jamie's well wrote statement just assumed that Daddy is upset. We have seen in Jamie before that when a foul is made there is a time and place for him to speak up. That foul was made and Jamie is advocating on behalf of an athlete at his school.
well, it is human nature to protect and show more passion when it is a family member or someone that is very close to the family. However, JP has shown historically that he will go to bat for any ISU athlete. Would he show the same passion? Maybe not as much, but certainly would be out there making noise about it.
i still don't think any of the athletes should advance.
however, if it happenned, i would want my coach / athletic director (advocate) to do exactly that pollard did in hopes of changing the ruling. however, i would not really expect it to be overturned.
You are the worst poster I've seen in any online community I've ever been a part of
I don't know the rules and nuances of track and field well enough to say they should or shouldn't advance. But whatever the decision it should be applied consistently.
And the people making the decision should be watching the event. The fact the NCAA people didn't watch the 10,000 and/or weren't in attendance is a big deal in my mind.
Good for Jamie calling a spade a spade. The NCAA is severely understaffed and incompetent when it comes to having the right representation for these types of cases across all sports.
This is showing a crack in the armour of the NCAA and probably is more of an indicator of changes to come with college athletics. Schools believe they can handle this better than the NCAA and Jamie is simply firing the warning shots.
This is showing a crack in the armour of the NCAA and probably is more of an indicator of changes to come with college athletics. Schools believe they can handle this better than the NCAA and Jamie is simply firing the warning shots.
Carl Lewis, yes that Carl Lewis, retweeted JP's tweet in agreement with JP!
