JJeff Injury Updates

[sj4]

Maybe to channel an inner Bill James, it could be said that the rest of the team combined would somehow have to come up with a combined 16.4 more points, 7.4 more rebounds, 1.6 more steals, and 4.7 more assists per game than they have otherwise been doing.

 

[harimad]

47 minutes? Don’t think we went to double OT today but maybe I was watching another game

Analytics show our net efficiency is better with JJ on the bench but that’s because he was so inconsistent this year. If good JJ was going to show up this tourney that’s a huge loss but not sure if that’s what we were gonna get or not

So we're testing the Ewing Theory I guess?

 

[not-the-manager]

I'm trying to imagine a scenario of a significant ankle injury where they wouldn't do the x-ray. I don't think he'll play tomorrow, but I wouldn't bet against next week if we advance.

I’m not a doctor but I’d think there’s literally no reason not to if there’s a machine in the arena. Once you’ve determined it’s an ankle that is

 

[Cyclad]

The fact the head trainer is even entertaining talk about possible availability for Sunday is a great sign. 99.9% certain he will be in a boot on Sunday. I'm just hopeful for next week. Jefferson wired a bit differently I'm sure. His Dad played in the NFL in the 90's-00's. I'm sure he knows a thing or two about playing through an injury.

If I'm an NBA GM, and Jefferson throws his team on his back to get to a Final 4 on a hobbled ankle, guy is skyrocketing up my board.

When I was 11 years old in 1992 I sprained my ankle at a basketball tournament in Marshall town, had to sit out 2 days.

Treatment recommended by the coaching staff ( one accountant and one engineer) was to get a slice of pizza at the concessions and to put some robitussin on it…so…I don’t expect JJ to play Sunday.

If I recall, your coaching staff was brilliant.
Led your team to the state championship.

 

[12191987]

47 minutes? Don’t think we went to double OT today but maybe I was watching another game

Easy mistake. ISU is averaging ~82 ppg. Your brain is going to try to make sense of an absurdity such as 108 points by scaling the length of the game.

While 108 is actually ~32% higher than that average (and would take ~53 minutes of game time to achieve at the typical ppm), a less numerate mind, such as the original poster’s, might calculate that because 82 is ~24% lower than 108 the game would need to be ~50 minutes to maintain the same ppm.

It is pretty obvious.

 

[clone52]

I’m not a doctor but I’d think there’s literally no reason not to if there’s a machine in the arena. Once you’ve determined it’s an ankle that is

Agreed, unless he can immediately put weight on it and lace them up, there is no reason not to get a x-ray.

 

[Cyched]

Didn’t Mateen Cleaves had a nasty rolled ankle back in the 2000 Final 4 or National Championship game and came back?

NCAA Tournament 2000 - Frozen moment: Cleaves' courageous comeback

 

[1TwistedCyclone]

Didn’t Mateen Cleaves had a nasty rolled ankle back in the 2000 Final 4 or National Championship game and came back?

I will be graceful. But I hate that name. Good player, just no.

 

[mfjk7759]

Every ankle sprain is different, so we really don't know. But if it's bad enough that they were taking X-rays, I would think there's little chance of him playing tomorrow. Even if he was able to play at 75%, it would be wise to sit him and let it heal better.

You always take exrays even if you keep playing on it and it bothering you. Anymore they take exrays if you have a hangnail

 

[12191987]

I will be graceful. But I hate that name. Good player, just no.

He kinda redeemed himself on this very site:

Mateen Cleaves talks Monte Morris, 2000 Elite Eight - Cyclone Fanatic

Iowa State Basketball: Former MSU All-American Mateen Cleaves talks about Monte Morris; the 2000 Elite Eight.

cyclonefanatic.com

 

[CycloneJoe6]

Word inside the program he is pushing to play tomorrow.

For everyone saying he was done as a Cyclone...c'mon man!

Find a way to survive and advance!

Impossible. We have a poster that's worked in sports med that says his career is over

 

[Spanky]

Reports are he just had the leg amputated

Easy mistake. ISU is averaging ~82 ppg. Your brain is going to try to make sense of an absurdity such as 108 points by scaling the length of the game.

While 108 is actually ~32% higher than that average (and would take ~53 minutes of game time to achieve at the typical ppm), a less numerate mind, such as the original poster’s, might calculate that because 82 is ~24% lower than 108 the game would need to be ~50 minutes to maintain the same ppm.

It is pretty obvious.

I was told there wouldn't be any math...

 

[Cyched]

I'm trying to imagine a scenario of a significant ankle injury where they wouldn't do the x-ray. I don't think he'll play tomorrow, but I wouldn't bet against next week if we advance.

Even in the best case scenario - which it appears we may have - he was always going to be iffy, if not ruled out for tomorrow. Ankle injuries suck.

I could see JJ being treated as "break glass in case of emergency" tomorrow. Maybe some limited time just to stay loose, but if Toure and Heise are playing like they did yesterday, pull him and rest up.

 

[intrepid27]

Understandably against weak competition, but I loved the aggressiveness from Heise and Toure. Unlocking close to that for the remaining game(s) could likely make up for no JJ.

I think it will hamper Kentucky's ability to game plan. Do youplan for late February Toure and Heise or last 2 weeks Toure?

 

[RedDog]

Can we be sure they x-rayed the correct ankle?

 

[Kettes]

Easy mistake. ISU is averaging ~82 ppg. Your brain is going to try to make sense of an absurdity such as 108 points by scaling the length of the game.

While 108 is actually ~32% higher than that average (and would take ~53 minutes of game time to achieve at the typical ppm), a less numerate mind, such as the original poster’s, might calculate that because 82 is ~24% lower than 108 the game would need to be ~50 minutes to maintain the same ppm.

It is pretty obvious.

 

[iowastatefan1929]

 

[MatthiasISU]

He’s dead

 

[Jakester]

He’s dead

I can confirm. Sad.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

He’s dead

Went to the river last night and poured some out for JJ!