it's interesting ...

Snyder had no reason to hate ISU. He beat them like a drum. He did not like Ku, I'm confident of that, but that runs in the family, so to speak.
I don't know why people write such rubbish other than making themselves feel somehow superior.
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Snyder had no reason to hate ISU. He beat them like a drum. He did not like Ku, I'm confident of that, but that runs in the family, so to speak.

Snyder has been the OC for Fry for 10 seasons at EIU, ISU is their instate rival. Until he took the KSU job, he had never been a coach head coach in college, no matter the level, and was 50 years old.
Its easy to see that at his age, he was being type casted as a career OC and never the head guy.
KSU, when Snyder took the job, was the worst P5 program in the country and there is little debate about that. So why does a successful OC at EIU, a team that had tied for 3 conference titles and been to 3 Rose Bowls, leave a cozy position to become a head coach at the worst P5 school in the country, even after Fry tells him not to take it.
He had to start to wonder if he was ever going to get to be a head coach and therefore jumped at the KSU job.

So the rumor was he had not been interviewed for the ISU job when it came open, an instate rival that he had helped defeat over and over.
Its easy to see that Snyder had no love for ISU, and was figuring that he was going to make the Cyclone regret for not giving him a shot as their head coach.
 
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I thought the rumor was that coach Fry told Snyder: Two power programs cannot exist and be successful in a small population state, so don't go to Ames. Perhaps that hearsay as well. Remember, Snyder was very highly thought of at the time. Michigan's Bo famously said: Get him the f... out of the B10.

Ku fans will tell you that Snyder really wanted the Lawrence job but was rejected in favor of Glen Mason. I don't know. But I do know Snyder would never say a bad thing about another coach much less Mac. That's just not Bill Snyder.
 
I thought the rumor was that coach Fry told Snyder: Two power programs cannot exist and be successful in a small population state, so don't go to Ames. Perhaps that hearsay as well. Remember, Snyder was very highly thought of at the time. Michigan's Bo famously said: Get him the f... out of the B10.

Ku fans will tell you that Snyder really wanted the Lawrence job but was rejected in favor of Glen Mason. I don't know. But I do know Snyder would never say a bad thing about another coach much less Mac. That's just not Bill Snyder.

Don't get me wrong, I respect what Snyder did at KSU and believe it was him, not Fry to be the true genius as to the EIU turnaround. Look at Fry's record before Snyder arrived at N. Texas and after he left EIU to go to KSU. The number of wins for Fry drop off before and after, without Snyder.
I have always wondered how it would have turned out if he had been given the ISU job in the 80's. I guess we will never know.
 
Don't get me wrong, I respect what Snyder did at KSU and believe it was him, not Fry to be the true genius as to the EIU turnaround. Look at Fry's record before Snyder arrived at N. Texas and after he left EIU to go to KSU. The number of wins for Fry drop off before and after, without Snyder.
I have always wondered how it would have turned out if he had been given the ISU job in the 80's. I guess we will never know.

That's funny if you think about it. ISU may have been bad back then but K-State was a laughingstock - one step from being shelled out of the B8. It was only that the conference couldn't see itself without K-State basketball that it survived until he arrived in '88. Snyder would have done at Ames what he did in Manhattan. The schools are/were so similar but for the colors and corn v. wheat.
 
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The schools are/were so similar but for the colors and corn v. wheat.

And excepting AAU (leading research institutions) status, along with Texas and Kansas as the only three in the Big12. Maybe we're more like Texas. :rolleyes:
 
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