I’m talking about going for it vs kicking the FG. I personally would have kicked, but I’m glad they didn’t. Giving Johnson 2 minutes to drive and win the game against our secondary that was missing assignments? Not great.
ISU vs. K State Game Thoughts
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One guy that really stood out for me today (other than the obvious Eskildsen) was Ezeogu. It wasn’t just that batted down ball. He was a tough dude that seemed to get to the right spot to stop some runs that could’ve gone for more. I’m a big fan of him.
I’m really hoping yesterday was not an indication of these two transfer receivers. Townsend was non existent and Sowell was either slipping or dropping a catch whenever he had an opportunity. The good part is our tight end game was incredible all game, but we are going to need something from Townsend and Sowell.
Rocco was difficult to watch in the first half. He looked nervous early on. When it comes down to it, despite his bad play in the first half, he was a monster in the second half. Take away that fumble on the pitch in the first quarter and he sneaks it in instead, this game wouldn’t have been all that close in the second half. Avery Johnson’s one touchdown was because our secondary went for the interception instead of covering the receiver. My guess is if everyone didn’t try to pick that off, and stayed on the receiver, it would’ve been incomplete. It’s encouraging to know that if that fumble pitch hadn’t happened and the secondary collapse on the touchdown hadn’t happened, this game would have been a 31-14 super comfortable win.
Hoping the receivers come alive against South Dakota and gain some confidence. Defense was just flat out very good.
Also, Avery Johnson is mid. The preseason hype I just don’t understand. One commentator said he’s Heisman material and I just don’t see it. My guess is he ends up as the 6th or 7th best quarterback in the conference this year.
I’m really hoping yesterday was not an indication of these two transfer receivers. Townsend was non existent and Sowell was either slipping or dropping a catch whenever he had an opportunity. The good part is our tight end game was incredible all game, but we are going to need something from Townsend and Sowell.
Rocco was difficult to watch in the first half. He looked nervous early on. When it comes down to it, despite his bad play in the first half, he was a monster in the second half. Take away that fumble on the pitch in the first quarter and he sneaks it in instead, this game wouldn’t have been all that close in the second half. Avery Johnson’s one touchdown was because our secondary went for the interception instead of covering the receiver. My guess is if everyone didn’t try to pick that off, and stayed on the receiver, it would’ve been incomplete. It’s encouraging to know that if that fumble pitch hadn’t happened and the secondary collapse on the touchdown hadn’t happened, this game would have been a 31-14 super comfortable win.
Hoping the receivers come alive against South Dakota and gain some confidence. Defense was just flat out very good.
Also, Avery Johnson is mid. The preseason hype I just don’t understand. One commentator said he’s Heisman material and I just don’t see it. My guess is he ends up as the 6th or 7th best quarterback in the conference this year.
Hope we see more of the 2nd half OL than the first half OL. It's pretty confusing how they were so much better after halftime, but I'm not complaining!
Very good explanation of the 3 man DL and 8 deep pass defenders. Would add that this type of D needs 6 or 7 rotational lineman to use against a team that is going to the pass on 3rd down or is behind and running out of time.
Campbell said something that last year K-State used 3 DL and switched to 4 DL this year. It must’ve taken a half to adjust our blocking scheme to account for the change.
I dismiss 1st half play for two reasons: normal jitters and inexact execution of first game going against true game speed and then add not just wet conditions but hard rain. I’ll grant the call for the pitch play to Abu was best kept back in the OC’s back pocket. Rocco gets more out of his talent level because he makes the right decisions under duress which separates D-2 QB’s. One penalty which wasn’t a penalty under the sloppy conditions is a testament to this staff and players. Probably the prime thing I take out of this game, we were prepared. KSU’s penalties killed some positive plays at crucial times.
The only way we could lose in that spot is to give the ball back to K State. If we score a TD in that spot, K State has an opportunity to score a TD and then recover an onside kick and score again. It is a very slim chance but a chance. If we take a knee like we did, they have 0 chance. They need the ball to score.
The holes the line was opening up on the right side in the 4th quarter were gigantic.
It hadn't been like that all game.
And imo it wasn't terrible yesterday all game; KSU has a very good DL and aside from adjustments it can take a while to chip away at things.
It hadn't been like that all game.
And imo it wasn't terrible yesterday all game; KSU has a very good DL and aside from adjustments it can take a while to chip away at things.
I give you KSU/ISU 2015 as a prime example of doing the less risky thing to get off the field with a win.
demoncore1031
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I was thinking they may have had a hard time with their footing because of the wet field. I might be wrong, but once the field started to dry up they were phenomenal.
I agree, that came at Sama really fast and hard. Rocco also needs to work on putting a little touch on short routes. He fired a couple of rockets at guys yesterday. One was a 3rd and 3 I think, the reciever ran what looked like close to a 3 yard route and Rocco threw to hard and fast it would have been dificult for the reciever to catch that. With that said, it was just the first game so that is correctable and the great thing about Rocco is he is a winner, he seems to make the big plays when the game is on line.
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How is it confusing?
KSU's DL is touted as being really good and the running game can take a while to work itself out.
The amount of fans already writing off our transfer WR’s is astounding. Not just here but on X as well
Haven't seen much talk of this, but Campbell mentioned it in the post-game. Sounds like we fully expected them to come out with a 3-down linemen defense and then surprising us with a 4-down one could have thrown off the offense for the first half. Especially the o-line after all the preparation and recognizing assignments was based off a 3-down defensive formation. Just a thought. Shows how good we are at in-game adjustments.
Does anyone know more about this. Did we have any indication that they were going to come out in a new defense?
Does anyone know more about this. Did we have any indication that they were going to come out in a new defense?
And 'just be as good as things were in the 4th quarter all the time OK?'.
Are you saying that we did not know they were going to use 4DL? That would be odd IMO.
Would it be odd if ISU came out with 4 DL? Yes, it was different from what they ran all last year so the coaches didn’t think they would overhaul their scheme this year most likely.
