***ISU vs Iowa***

What do you mean by "Fam Biz"?

The women's basketball program is a family business. We have had 3 on the payroll in at one point 2 currently. They are getting paid about 850k a year combined between Bill and Billy.

Lot of investment for losing 2.5 million as a program.
 
First game seeing the team in person. Wasn't a fan of Bill constantly jerking B K-H in and out of the lineup. She wasn't in foul trouble and was playing the best defense on Gustafson. Like both of the Minny girls especially Scott. Really surpised at the lack of PT she had in the second half. Burkhall looks so lost at times.

Really hated seeing Bluder get her first win at Hilton. I'd trade 2 or 3 Big 12 wins to keep her winless in our building.
 
First game seeing the team in person. Wasn't a fan of Bill constantly jerking B K-H in and out of the lineup. She wasn't in foul trouble and was playing the best defense on Gustafson. Like both of the Minny girls especially Scott. Really surpised at the lack of PT she had in the second half. Burkhall looks so lost at times.

Really hated seeing Bluder get her first win at Hilton. I'd trade 2 or 3 Big 12 wins to keep her winless in our building.

So it was your fault!

That's a relief, now I don't have to blame my new avatar. ;)
 
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I'm at a loss (again) after tonight.. don't even have the heart to write up my reactions of the night at this point.. as I'm afraid if be way too harsh on the team.
 
The women's basketball program is a family business. We have had 3 on the payroll in at one point 2 currently. They are getting paid about 850k a year combined between Bill and Billy.

Lot of investment for losing 2.5 million as a program.

Really? I would guess every women's basketball team in the country is a money loser. At ISU the only squads that make money are men's basketball and football. Even UConn women lose money.
https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations
 
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Really? I would guess every women's basketball team in the country is a money loser. At ISU the only squads that make money are men's basketball and football. Even UConn women lose money.
https://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations

So the fact we over pay the Fam Biz by hundreds of thousands to be less than mediocre doesn't matter? The amount the school invests into the program getting zero return. Losing 2.5 million is still 2.5 million even if other people do it too.

Look at last night. No one was there compared to what was drawn even 6-7 years ago. Official attendance said 10,916 and lower bowl wasn't even close to being full. Fennelly did a lot for the program but he's become stale and can't develop players at all. Worst part is we've got a situation where his kid is heir to the throne.
 
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Are you suggesting Iowa State inflates attendance numbers? No way.

So the fact we over pay the Fam Biz by hundreds of thousands to be less than mediocre doesn't matter? The amount the school invests into the program getting zero return. Losing 2.5 million is still 2.5 million even if other people do it too.

Look at last night. No one was there compared to what was drawn even 6-7 years ago. Official attendance said 10,916 and lower bowl wasn't even close to being full. Fennelly did a lot for the program but he's become stale and can't develop players at all. Worst part is we've got a situation where his kid is heir to the throne.
 
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So the fact we over pay the Fam Biz by hundreds of thousands to be less than mediocre doesn't matter? The amount the school invests into the program getting zero return. Losing 2.5 million is still 2.5 million even if other people do it too.

Look at last night. No one was there compared to what was drawn even 6-7 years ago. Official attendance said 10,916 and lower bowl wasn't even close to being full. Fennelly did a lot for the program but he's become stale and can't develop players at all. Worst part is we've got a situation where his kid is heir to the throne.
So the fact we over pay the Fam Biz by hundreds of thousands to be less than mediocre doesn't matter? The amount the school invests into the program getting zero return. Losing 2.5 million is still 2.5 million even if other people do it too.

Look at last night. No one was there compared to what was drawn even 6-7 years ago. Official attendance said 10,916 and lower bowl wasn't even close to being full. Fennelly did a lot for the program but he's become stale and can't develop players at all. Worst part is we've got a situation where his kid is heir to the throne.

Listen, i agree something is not going right so far this year. But man, i really want to stop playing these Iowa-Iowa State game on weekdays.. please go to playing then on weekends!

However I'm getting really tired of this "family biz" talk. I trust Jamie and am not worried about successorship right now. they pay bill and his staff what they are worth. Get over it
 
Listen, i agree something is not going right so far this year. But man, i really want to stop playing these Iowa-Iowa State game on weekdays.. please go to playing then on weekends!

However I'm getting really tired of this "family biz" talk. I trust Jamie and am not worried about successorship right now. they pay bill and his staff what they are worth. Get over it


I didn't coin the phrase. Bill Fennelly did himself! Fennelly has become more smug over time. Listen to his post games. He rarely takes the blame. I can tell you that coaching staff isn't worth what they are paid.
 

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I didn't coin the phrase. Bill Fennelly did himself! Fennelly has become more smug over time. Listen to his post games. He rarely takes the blame. I can tell you that coaching staff isn't worth what they are paid.

Which ones do you listen to as I have heard him take the blame a number of times when the problem was not his doing. Shooting is not the coaches fault, some times shots fall and other times like last night hey do not.
 
Yes they do, and ALL schools do.Been going on for at least 10 years. I imagine each school's formula may be slightly different, but I would prefer that they report actual attendance as well. But they likely wouldn't like what that looks like.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_5e20cb1c-d6ed-11e7-85b4-739a81cadb3c.html

Agree, too many count all season tickets sold even when those people don't show up. How many times have you heard sold out crowd but the cameras show many empty seats. Would love to see the actual count from the units used to check us in.
 
He's not connecting with his players anymore. Everyone knows his passion for the game is still there, but sadly his frustrations have taken over somewhat and I think his coaching has taken a hit.