That's the way I always thought it was done around here, no?
In 2021 Iowa had two top-10 wins and three top-20 wins. So yeah, it's been awhile.
ISU unranked in AP poll
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In 2021 Iowa had two top-10 wins and three top-20 wins. So yeah, it's been awhile.
It's a numbers game, there are 12 slots, 4 go to the conference champions, the G5 schools get one, if ND goes undefeated the rest of the way that will leave 8 open spots, 9 if they do not.
So the B10 has OSU, Michigan, Indiana, Penn State, and Oregon for those spots, the SEC has UT, OU, Alabama, Georgia and Miss. St for their spots and the ACC has Miami and FSU for theirs. Every team on that list has a higher profile than any team from the B12. Its going to take a small miracle for the B12 to ever get more than one spot, meaning that we have to have two teams that have one loss and the B10 and SEC have multiple teams with two or more, plus only one team out of the ACC.
The first year of the playoff, only taking four teams, Baylor and TCU had 1 loss each, and we did not get a team in, what makes anyone think it will be any different now when they are at 12 teams? The B12 will always be a one bid league without the before mention miracle and it's why if they move to 16 teams we need to push for the 2 bid proposal.
So the B10 has OSU, Michigan, Indiana, Penn State, and Oregon for those spots, the SEC has UT, OU, Alabama, Georgia and Miss. St for their spots and the ACC has Miami and FSU for theirs. Every team on that list has a higher profile than any team from the B12. Its going to take a small miracle for the B12 to ever get more than one spot, meaning that we have to have two teams that have one loss and the B10 and SEC have multiple teams with two or more, plus only one team out of the ACC.
The first year of the playoff, only taking four teams, Baylor and TCU had 1 loss each, and we did not get a team in, what makes anyone think it will be any different now when they are at 12 teams? The B12 will always be a one bid league without the before mention miracle and it's why if they move to 16 teams we need to push for the 2 bid proposal.
Or you can let the rest of the year play out and see how that team does, you know, a logical thing to do. Right now KSU is no where near a ranked team.
Not during the seasons, KSU counts as beating a ranked opponent now, that is all that matters at this point. At the end of the season, when they look back, then that will change. It's not impossible that KSU will end up ranked. It's not hard to figure out, much like they do in MBB, a team may count as a quality win one week, but then not the next. In football they only readjust at the end of the season.
Normally I'd agree but this KSU team is 1-3 with their only win coming against North Dakota (not North Dakota St.) where they gave up 35 points and barely escaped with a last minute win. This team ain't finishing ranked. And if they did, that would be pretty bad for the Big 12 because they'd have to have gotten Ws over the conference's currently ranked teams, hurting their chances at another CFP bid.
The army loss at home was a bad loss, but not sure going on the road to Arizona really is. Their two hardest games left are both at home, TT and TCU and then maybe at Utah, outside of that they could win the rest. UCF this week will be the make or break game for them, lose that and it will all go downhill from there, but win that game, they have Baylor next and would be back to .500. I guess we will see what they are made of starting this week.
We'll see. I think they go 3-5 the rest of the way, at best. They're not very good.
If they don't turn it around, I wonder if he will not transfer at the end of the year. They bet everything on him and so far the results have been lacking.
It would be hilarious if he goes to Ohio State and wins a natty.
He was in the portal this offseason and they gave him a bag. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if he’d leave.
We will see they have had a strange year, lost their staring tailback the first minutes of their game against us, Johnson has not stepped up like everyone thought he would and the service academies can give teams fits because they play ball control all game long. Put them all together and the outcome is not good. But Johnson can play better, and he will have too if they are going to win games going forward.
I think people are overreacting to how the playoff played out last year. We only have one year of the expanded playoff under our belt. No reason to just extrapolate that because we only got 1 in last year we are stuck with that forever.
I think you could argue that last year was pretty much a worst case scenario for the B12. You had a 4 way tie for first with teams at 7-2 in conference. Colorado was one of those teams and they had dropped a non con game as well so they were a 3 loss team. ASU who won it all was picked dead last so had tons of poll inertia to overcome. And many of those losses were thanks to KU getting hot late in the year, which hung bad losses on 3 contenders late in the season.
Honestly, couldn't have drawn it up any worse. To this point, no single loss P4 team has missed the playoff, and I think that rule will generally apply to the B12 as well. Only a couple 2 loss P4s missed last year. That could be a steeper hill for a B12 team. But I feel like in general any B12 team that finishes undefeated or with a single loss, those teams are in.
I think you could argue that last year was pretty much a worst case scenario for the B12. You had a 4 way tie for first with teams at 7-2 in conference. Colorado was one of those teams and they had dropped a non con game as well so they were a 3 loss team. ASU who won it all was picked dead last so had tons of poll inertia to overcome. And many of those losses were thanks to KU getting hot late in the year, which hung bad losses on 3 contenders late in the season.
Honestly, couldn't have drawn it up any worse. To this point, no single loss P4 team has missed the playoff, and I think that rule will generally apply to the B12 as well. Only a couple 2 loss P4s missed last year. That could be a steeper hill for a B12 team. But I feel like in general any B12 team that finishes undefeated or with a single loss, those teams are in.
Cincinnati started the 2021 season ranked 8th.
Cincinnati beat #9 Notre Dame and #21 Houston on the way to a 13-0 season.
They were the sole undefeated team. The only 1-loss teams at the end of the regular season were #23 Louisiana and #5 Notre Dame.
Cincinnati was given the lowest seed, edging out a team they beat head-to-head.
Would they have still been #4 in a 12-team playoff emphasizing SOS? Maybe?
I definitely like 13-0 ISU’s chances of getting a top 2 seed if Iowa ends the season with 1 loss and ranked #3.
So your prediction is Iowa goes 13-1, wins the Big 10 title and is the 3 seed in the playoff?
They beat Rutgers, so I have to concede they’re better than I thought.
It will not change if we sit here passively and just let them get away with it. We need to call out the people with the ridiculous Big 12 takes, starting with the media.
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