ISU unranked in AP poll

We beat three ranked teams that year, including two in the top-10. I just remember hearing that it doesn't count as a ranked win if/when they fall out of the rankings.
You beat over ranked ISU and Indiana that season, you are trying to have it both ways here, saying ISU does not get credit for beating a ranked KSU team, but then turning around and taking credit for beating two similar teams that were over ranked in the preseason polls that year.
So which one are we counting, the ranking when you played them, or the final poll ranking?
 
Week 13 and week 14 last year the small biased committee thought THREE G5 teams were better than the entire Big 12. Go back and look at those weeks, total insanity.

Army and Tulane were both above ASU and ISU very late in season and luckily they lost a game.
Exactly my point, but we still have people thinking that the B12 is going to get two teams into the playoff if the records are close. The powers that be and the strength behind those conferences only care about their conference, and are never going to help the B12, the last thing they want to see is the conference be successful.
 
You beat over ranked ISU and Indiana that season, you are trying to have it both ways here, saying ISU does not get credit for beating a ranked KSU team, but then turning around and taking credit for beating two similar teams that were over ranked in the preseason polls that year.
So which one are we counting, the ranking when you played them, or the final poll ranking?
Not really. I don't think it should be considered a ranked win unless the team you beat maintains a rankinig and finishes ranked. I don't count any of those 2021 Ws for Iowa as ranked wins.
 
KSU was ranked when the two schools played, when was the last time the squawks beat a ranked team? Changing the goal line to they have to be ranked at the end of the year is just as crazy as saying they are not going to be ranked at the end of the season.
Don’t you know the Hawks are in the CFP hunt after their big wins over U. Mass and Rutgers?:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Not really. I don't think it should be considered a ranked win unless the team you beat maintains a rankinig and finishes ranked. I don't count any of those 2021 Ws for Iowa as ranked wins.

So it’s 100% impossible to beat a ranked team that’s ranked 21-25 since beating them instantly makes them unranked teams.

Wouldn’t blame Iowa and Nebraska fans looking to reduce those 0-10 and 0-28 losing streaks. The really old ISU fans can remember when we were there.
 
Not really. I don't think it should be considered a ranked win unless the team you beat maintains a rankinig and finishes ranked. I don't count any of those 2021 Ws for Iowa as ranked wins.

I am going to go the opposite direction. I like saying Nebby has lost to 28 straight ranked teams.:D
 
So it’s 100% impossible to beat a ranked team that’s ranked 21-25 since beating them instantly makes them unranked teams.

Wouldn’t blame Iowa and Nebraska fans looking to reduce those 0-10 and 0-28 losing streaks. The really old ISU fans can remember when we were there.
Not if they win their next game and get their ranking back.
 
Not if they win their next game and get their ranking back.

So only final ranking matters? Or it has to be ranked when they played plus also final?

Either way ISU has 4 top ten wins recently so I’m sure some of those finished ranked, it’s not like we are 0-10 or something.

Even teams with a tough schedule are going to have 1-2 opportunities max with your criteria.
 
So only final ranking matters? Or it has to be ranked when they played plus also final?

Either way ISU has 4 top ten wins recently so I’m sure some of those finished ranked, it’s not like we are 0-10 or something.

Even teams with a tough schedule are going to have 1-2 opportunities max with your criteria.
That's what I've been told.
 
Whether you agree with it or not, hasn't the "official" record keeping been decided by if you beat a team that was ranked when you played them?

I agree that there are a lot of wins against ranked teams, and conversely losses to unranked teams, that look much different as the season plays out. For example, in 2002 I don't believe Iowa was ranked when Iowa State beat them in Iowa City, but at the end of the season Iowa finished in the Top 10.

That win was NOT counted as a win against a ranked opponent but it was definitely a better win than many wins against teams that were ranked at the time but didn't end up being very good.

In the end, you just have to pick one criteria and stick with it if you're going to compare apples to apples.
 
Lol, no I'm really not. I agree with you that we haven't beaten a legit ranked team since 2019 or whenever. All I'm saying is that, by the same token, it seems weird to count KSU as a ranked win when they're 1-3, unranked, dead last in the Big 12, and clearly nowhere close to being a top-25 team.
Hard to disagree with you there. My opinion is that if a team is ranked when they play, that’s a ranked win. After the season you can call it out for being fraudulent like KSU and all of iowas since 2019. Iowa should get credit for beating a top 10 ISU team in Ames and ISU should get credit for beating a top 25 KSU team in Ireland
 
Hard to disagree with you there. My opinion is that if a team is ranked when they play, that’s a ranked win. After the season you can call it out for being fraudulent like KSU and all of iowas since 2019. Iowa should get credit for beating a top 10 ISU team in Ames and ISU should get credit for beating a top 25 KSU team in Ireland
That's cool. I'd have a hard time calling a week 0 win over a now 1-3 KSU team a ranked win but to each his own.
 
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That's cool. I'd have a hard time calling a week 0 win over a now 1-3 KSU team a ranked win but to each his own.
It’s why preseason rankings are garbage lol. My biggest gripe is how SEC homers will switch the narrative so it favors their resume and then flip it to hurt another conference’s team.

It’s like last year after Alabama lost to OU and then there were SEC media members claiming OU was actually good because they couldn’t beat Bama unless they were. The team that was 5-5 going into that Alabama game lol.
 
Whether you agree with it or not, hasn't the "official" record keeping been decided by if you beat a team that was ranked when you played them?

I agree that there are a lot of wins against ranked teams, and conversely losses to unranked teams, that look much different as the season plays out. For example, in 2002 I don't believe Iowa was ranked when Iowa State beat them in Iowa City, but at the end of the season Iowa finished in the Top 10.

That win was NOT counted as a win against a ranked opponent but it was definitely a better win than many wins against teams that were ranked at the time but didn't end up being very good.

In the end, you just have to pick one criteria and stick with it if you're going to compare apples to apples.

It's a tough criteria to pick...perhaps the opponent was playing well when they were ranked but then dissolved with injuries, lack of depth, etc.

Or, the team wasn't doing well at all and 'found it' later in the season.

Or, they were ranked only based off of the prior season and really weren't very good the whole next season.
 
I think the accepted practice is to use the result of the game at the time as to whether a win or loss occured against a ranked team. That is why Nebraska is cited as having lost 28 straight games to ranked teams. No one goes back at the end of the year and adjusts these results based on final rankings.

I can tell @Gonzo is basing his position on some point in the past that this board probably discounted an Iowa victory because the team they beat ended up sucking and unranked. He is just trolling us. And he is probably correct that posters here moved the goalposts against an Iowa achievement. But that is our right to present the hokroaches in the worst possible light.:D
 
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I think the accepted practice is to use the result of the game at the time as to whether a win or loss occured against a ranked team. That is why Nebraska is cited as having lost 28 straight games to ranked teams. No one goes back at the end of the year and adjusts these results based on final rankings.

I can tell @Gonzo is basing his position on some point in the past that this board probably discounted an Iowa victory because the team they beat ended up sucking and unranked. He is just trolling us. And he is probably correct that posters here moved the goalposts against an Iowa achievement. But that is our right to present the hokroaches in the worst possible light.:D
I'm really not trolling. I've been pretty clear, if the team you beat is no longer ranked and/or doesn't finish the season ranked, I wouldn't count it as a ranked win. I mean, yes it was what everyone on here said about Iowa's wins over PSU and others who were ranked at the time. But it's a position I also agree with. I'm just calling out the inconsistency of opinions.
 

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