ISU #1 in BPI
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It's from ESPN so it's junk. They are just pro SEC football and ACC basketball shills. Completely worthless.
Oh wait... We like ESPN now. Just let me know when to hate them again.
Oh wait... We like ESPN now. Just let me know when to hate them again.
It's from ESPN so it's junk. They are just pro SEC football and ACC basketball shills. Completely worthless.
Oh wait... We like ESPN now. Just let me know when to hate them again.
I am still not sold on BPI as all that much better than the RPI. Teams will figure out how to game any system, and they will for BPI. Is it currently a better predictor Yes, marginally. Is it going to stay that way, doubtful. And the NCAA has always been against allowing any MOV considerations into any of their ranking systems for a number of reasons.
BPI has the added negatives of encouraging the KU, UK, NC and Duke's of the world to go back to scheduling sisters of the poor at home all non-con because they can just pound them by 100 and then let BPI MOV take care of it. This above all else is why you likely won't see the NCAA take a lot of weight away from RPI to give to BPI.
I think at the most they will use it to mediate situations where a team or conferences (MWC last year) game the system. Like it or not there are good reasons to keep the RPI as the leading selector. Just so long as it isn't the end all be all. Outliers can often be explained and the committee is understanding it.
People who disagree with RPI being used usually don't understand it for one, and for two don't understand that there are more things taken into consideration than its ability to perfectly predict outcomes. It has other rewards built into it for teams that keep the "scheduling machine" running smoothly.
Only when you isolate it as a predictor and realize that it hasn't been around long enough for teams or conferences to figure out how to game it.
It's from ESPN so it's junk. They are just pro SEC football and ACC basketball shills. Completely worthless.
Oh wait... We like ESPN now. Just let me know when to hate them again.
ESPN is wonderful and incisive as to what is happening in the sports world. They are like the cadillac of info.
RPI doesn't even get close to BPI. RPI is crap. It has nowhere near the variables entered into it's formula. RPI is the bottom of the barrel vs any other rating.
I like Kenpom, Sagarin, BPI, 20 feet of crap, and then RPI in that order.
As long as the NCAA continues to rely on RPI there's no real need for teams to try and manipulate BPI. Could it influence human polls? Maybe. But teams ranked in the polls should be safely in the tournament anyway.
RPI vs BPI/Kenpom/Sagarin is like seeding the NCAA tournament based solely on the number of Ws a team has compared to actually looking at SOS and quality wins.
RPI is a cavemans rating tool.
RPI is a cavemans rating tool.
C'mon, we are supposed to be an engineering school... Crap is properly measured by volume or weight, not by length.
He was referring to the volume of an Olympic size swimming pool filled with 20 feet of crap.
Ahh ****, I had to go through Calc 3 so I should know that.
Let's just say it's a cube of **** that is 20 ft x 20 ft x 20 ft. So 8,000 cubic feet of ****.
That does sound worse....
I think it means we were 1-0 vs opponents without one of our top players, But Ejim missed 2 games
All of which use MOV. and because of that are not allowed to be used by the NCAA. They likely never will be more than a mediating factor to combat when RPI is gamed. Complain all you want.
Its not that I don't think that there are flaws to RPI, I just know that it is superior in making the tournament and scheduling include the intangibles. Many teams can skate through the season when they only have to play 5 or 6 decent games all year and then get hot in the tournament. RPI Forces teams to schedule more of their Peers.
Therefore it will not be going away for a long time, unless the NCAA completely changes it stance. That would hurt the Scheduling unless the go to mandated non-conference mixing schedule, or Euro conferencing where you can get promoted/demoted.
RPI still does a very good job of predicting. Just not as good as if the NCAA ever changed the parameters to allow MOV data.
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Individual committee members are allowed to use any tool they want, but you are right about RPI being the official metric. I have no argument there.
Its merits are also not completely based on predictor. Do you know that it has a bump up for scheduling more than half your non-con with 150 and better teams. Its merits go beyond just being a predictor. As mandated by the NCAA it was never meant to be the perfect predictor.
I don't think anyone disagrees with your assessment of how important RPI is to Selection Sunday, but it is most definitely not a good predictor. It is the worst predictor of all the major computer rating systems (according to work done by the guy that runs rpiforecast.com). It's not meant to be a predictor, anyway.
