Iowa State Transfer Tracker 2025

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Yeah, I watched the whole clip and didn't see a guy who uses length or athleticism. Uses his skills. Lower volume 3 point shooter (39 makes at 34%), so he'll need to score in the paint against big 12 teams.

Looks like a nice player for two years, just worry we have too many "below the rim" players, and not enough dudes. Watching teams in this tournament and sweet 16... they got some absolute killers from a length and athleticism perspective.

Yes NIL $ is always a factor.
Nothing wrong with a 34% shooter from 3. He looks like a scorer, who can get his shot off the dribble. With the offense Iowa State runs, looks like a nice fit.

Looks like a good player to compete with Heise, Touri and Batemon for minutes at 2G.
 
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So we have Mitchell, Toure, and Pleta entering the transfer portal a year from now if you go by the projected lineups.
I missed you ZRF. It's great to have you back on here! I hope TJ recruits someone that can turn their moderately muscular body style into a chiseled body style over a 2 or 3 year time period, like Big Rob did, so you can talk about it on here. You are the best! Don't listen to the haters. Keep going!
 

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So we have Mitchell, Toure, and Pleta entering the transfer portal a year from now if you go by the projected lineups.
People will enter the transfer portal every year. It's TJs job to put together the best roster he can get. We can't on one hand complain about depth and on the other complain we have too many players that might push out non contributors
 
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If they're good, it won't be a problem.

There is no time for development anymore if you want to compete. The roster is a simple matter of who the top players are for the system, right now. If you're good, you play.
Agree 100%

Reminds me of a quote from a great Modern Philosopher named Norm: "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milk-bone underwear"

The version of college athletics most of us grew up with is a thing of the past. Coaches are paid not only to win, but to win at a high rate and win big! So TJ's job is to find 8-9 players every year that can compete for Big12 titles. So that means guys in spots 9-13 are pretty much expendable unless they show growth.

I feel like we see that approach every year:
  1. In the fall sign a talented recruiting class based on known open scholarships
  2. In the spring try to hold on to core players who have shown the ability to be in the core 8 the next fall
  3. Scour the portal for underappreciated or developing players to meet needs.
It's painful to see guys like Rock leave after a couple years. But that tells me the staff wasn't 100% confident he would be a top 8-9 player next fall.

In the case of Indrusaitis, it would be interesting to know his situation since he didn't announce he was leaving when the other players did. Was he given the option to come back? At maybe his current or lower NIL amount. Did his agent do some research and find out his NIL value might be more elsewhere than ISU? It's truly is professional sport with annual free agency.
 
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I don't want to derail transfer talk, but I think the Ole Miss game is skewing our perception a bit. Auburn is athletic. Texas Tech is athletic. Arizona is athletic. Houston is athletic... With a healthy (or mostly healthy) Gilbert and Lipsey, this season's team did just fine against top-tier rosters/athletes. Even in the Ole Miss game the team's execution was getting Momcilovic more open looks than I think he'd had in weeks, he just couldn't hit, nor could Jones.

I'm not saying this transfer class will produce a Gilbert and a Jones, but we had just as many questions about their jump to P4 competition when they committed, and even once the '23-'24 season started. Gilbert took about a full season to develop, but became a more-than-capable Big 12 contributor, borderline star. Jones blossomed in January of his first season. I'm not insinuating that you don't trust the staff, but I think we have to accept that Iowa State can't afford many if any transfers whose athleticism leaps off their tape (no pun intended). Yet we later found out what Gilbert is capable of around the rim, and how Jones can contort his body to get shots/floaters off.

And, for all of our complaints about "misses," I do think high school recruiting can be a numbers game, so I'm really optimistic that Otz's classes only seem to be getting better. This year's class definitely has top-tier athletes, not just great basketball players, like maybe would've been said about Momcilovic. If you keep bringing in similar guys, eventually one (or two, or three) will hit, and then you really will have unlocked moneyball
Nail meet head! This is spot on.
 

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Agree 100%

Reminds me of a quote from a great Modern Philosopher named Norm: "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milk-bone underwear"

The version of college athletics most of us grew up with is a thing of the past. Coaches are paid not only to win, but to win at a high rate and win big! So TJ's job is to find 8-9 players every year that can compete for Big12 titles. So that means guys in spots 9-13 are pretty much expendable unless they show growth.

I feel like we see that approach every year:
  1. In the fall sign a talented recruiting class based on known open scholarships
  2. In the spring try to hold on to core players who have shown the ability to be in the core 8 the next fall
  3. Scour the portal for underappreciated or developing players to meet needs.
It's painful to see guys like Rock leave after a couple years. But that tells me the staff wasn't 100% confident he would be a top 8-9 player next fall.

In the case of Indrusaitis, it would be interesting to know his situation since he didn't announce he was leaving when the other players did. Was he given the option to come back? At maybe his current or lower NIL amount. Did his agent do some research and find out his NIL value might be more elsewhere than ISU? It's truly is professional sport with annual free agency.

I'd be surprised if NIL value had anything to do with Rock and Nojus leaving as I can't imagine either will be highly sought after by power conference programs where they'd make significant money. We're talking about 2 guys that combined for a total of 109 minutes of playing time and 36 points this season. Both are pretty raw in their development at this point and would benefit from finding a smaller school that has playing time available for them to get game experience. I'm not losing sleep over either of them leaving, I wish them the best but this is a classic example of fans getting too emotionally attached to guys at the end of the bench. It's like in FB when there is adversity all the sudden the backup QB or guy on the 2 deep chart at a skill position is better or needs to be playing more. If we knew what was best then we'd all be getting paid millions to coach the team and not here on a message board where we are 18 pages deep in a topic about a guy leaving that barely played this year.
 
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Agree 100%

Reminds me of a quote from a great Modern Philosopher named Norm: "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milk-bone underwear"

The version of college athletics most of us grew up with is a thing of the past. Coaches are paid not only to win, but to win at a high rate and win big! So TJ's job is to find 8-9 players every year that can compete for Big12 titles. So that means guys in spots 9-13 are pretty much expendable unless they show growth.

I feel like we see that approach every year:
  1. In the fall sign a talented recruiting class based on known open scholarships
  2. In the spring try to hold on to core players who have shown the ability to be in the core 8 the next fall
  3. Scour the portal for underappreciated or developing players to meet needs.
It's painful to see guys like Rock leave after a couple years. But that tells me the staff wasn't 100% confident he would be a top 8-9 player next fall.

In the case of Indrusaitis, it would be interesting to know his situation since he didn't announce he was leaving when the other players did. Was he given the option to come back? At maybe his current or lower NIL amount. Did his agent do some research and find out his NIL value might be more elsewhere than ISU? It's truly is professional sport with annual free agency.
CHEERS! To that reference!
 

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I'd be surprised if NIL value had anything to do with Rock and Nojus leaving as I can't imagine either will be highly sought after by power conference programs where they'd make significant money. We're talking about 2 guys that combined for a total of 109 minutes of playing time and 36 points this season. Both are pretty raw in their development at this point and would benefit from finding a smaller school that has playing time available for them to get game experience. I'm not losing sleep over either of them leaving, I wish them the best but this is a classic example of fans getting too emotionally attached to guys at the end of the bench. It's like in FB when there is adversity all the sudden the backup QB or guy on the 2 deep chart at a skill position is better or needs to be playing more. If we knew what was best then we'd all be getting paid millions to coach the team and not here on a message board where we are 18 pages deep in a topic about a guy leaving that barely played this year.
It would not surprise me to see Indrusaitis end up at a lower tier Big10 or a Big East or MWC team. He had enough recruiting interest from P5 programs out of high-school that some coach will take a chance that Nojus wasn't a good fit for TJ's system.

If he can't cut it at a Nebraska, Northwestern, Minnesota, Xavier, Marquette or DePaul level program, where he should get a decent NIL package, then he moves on.
 

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So we have Mitchell, Toure, and Pleta entering the transfer portal a year from now if you go by the projected lineups.
Outside of Tamin Lipsey and Milan, all other freshman under TJ will play for another school. This is the way of current NCAA MBB. There is no time to develop when guys want to play right away.

Looking at TJ's transfer recruiting is a pretty good though. Only a couple misses: Enaruna, J Williams (injury), Pav.. It's a pretty good hit rate on transfers
 
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Should we play them over Tamin, Jefferson and potentially Cluff? Should they split minutes to make sure they all get a turn to play with the round ball?

Sorry, but if you’re not good enough or can’t execute the offensive and defensive game plans, you won’t play. If those guys are good enough for this level, they’ll play. I hope they are because we need some consistency from our HS recruiting classes.
Just as one of the Presidents (Dishon) has hit the portal because TJ and the Staff decided he was not worthy of giving him a pay raise. Mainly he has poor feel with his hands. Jefferson needs a dude who can handle his passes and get buckets. From what I understand (Blum on a podcast) said that the staff wants to keep him, but Dishon wants to see what his market is. Moreover, they are not holding a spot for him. My info is about two days old, which is ancient in the portal cycle.
 

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Just as one of the President's (Dishon) has hit the portal because TJ and the Staff decided he was not worthy of giving him a pay raise. Mainly he has poor feel with his hands. Jefferson needs a dude who can handle his passes and get buckets.
Yeah I think we might’ve kept Dishon as a backup but we obviously wanted to upgrade. Cluff would give us that. Far better post player.
 

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Just as one of the Presidents (Dishon) has hit the portal because TJ and the Staff decided he was not worthy of giving him a pay raise. Mainly he has poor feel with his hands. Jefferson needs a dude who can handle his passes and get buckets. From what I understand (Blum on a podcast) said that the staff wants to keep him, but Dishon wants to see what his market is. Moreover, they are not holding a spot for him. My info is about two days old, which is ancient in the portal cycle.
This makes sense to me. He was certainly good enough that we'd want him to stay, but might not want to pay more and you wouldn't want to hold the spot and maybe miss some opportunities while you wait.