Just curious what your thoughts are about current injury numbers and SC status vs. Andrews who got released a few season ago. The O Line seems further along.
Injuries and Strength
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No Rot thread rebirth yet so....overall, not a bad day.
I think injuries are mostly bad luck.
I think there is a general trend of more ligament issues as athletes push the limits of the human body with strength training. But, I don’t think there’s anything in particular that is being done by this staff that is causing any more injuries than other programs. If I believe that there are more injuries because of the strength of these guys, the only solution is to reduce the strength training, which would of course be bad for other reasons.
I don’t think S&C is bad. On the contrary, I think our staff is exemplary, a net positive. Our guys are strong, physical, and are right there in the fourth quarter with everyone. Other than the @Baylor game a few years ago, I can’t remember a game where our team wilted against their opponent. We were without tents on our sidelines on a very hot day if you remember.
If we have too many injuries, I would put it more on the positions we sometimes put our players in, especially on defense. Running a nickel as our base defense means we give up size and leverage against the run game. That can stress the players and maybe lead to more injuries than other teams.
I would like to see a comparison of ACL injuries over the years. I wonder if the rate has changed.
A lot of our injuries are contact related. Someone rolls up on your leg or it bends a certain way there is no way to prevent that. I think you would have a better argument with grass vs turf and how many injuries occur on each.
It would be an interesting study. Difference is that an ACL used to be a multi year deal if not a career ender. Now, it’s a 9 month rehab and you’re back. So I feel like it happens a lot more, but it is reported as not as big of a deal as it was even a decade ago.
I just want to know if campbell ran out of gas
I kind of wonder - a few years ago I remember seeing a bit on Pete Carroll with the Seattle Seahawks & they were coaching the players to "hawk tackle" which was how rugby players made tackles. A version of this was the roll tackle, & it seems ever since more players wrap up on tackles & whole trying to roll they simply dead leg & roll their bodies into the ball carriers' lower legs. Also, many times as defensive players attempt this they fall into their teammates lower extremities. Just wonder if these techniques have led to more lower body injuries by players & also if we changed up our tackling in practice this past week given the recent spate of injuries.
Maybe it's the bourbon I've had the past few hours & I'm just spewing nonsense, but man, our tackling the first half today was so putrid it had to be something was focused on this past week. Also, just seems like the lower body injuries the last few years has really spiked, so I'm generally curious if tackling techniques could have some blame. Trying to lessen head injuries, but then others spiking as a result?
This doesn't seem like too bad of an injury year so far if you ignore the two best CBs and two kickers. If there were flaws in the S&C, I don't think CBs and Ks would be where I would expect to see it. I have to say those 4 injuries seem like incredibly bad luck.
Yeah, I noticed that too, and thought that second half we looked like we were shedding blockers better before tackling, where in the first half we were still engaged with blockers and trying to arm tackle.
Without knowing the details, maybe you could put a kicker muscle injury on a poor stretching routine. But ACLs during game time are purely about the play and just unfortunate.
Players are bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 40 years ago. ACL’s, collar bones, ankles, etc. are not.
I remember a Real Sports segment from like 15 years ago where they outlined how so many athletes were having non-contact knee injuries and they attribute most of it to overuse, quicker plant/change of direction, and other underlying issues.
I remember a Real Sports segment from like 15 years ago where they outlined how so many athletes were having non-contact knee injuries and they attribute most of it to overuse, quicker plant/change of direction, and other underlying issues.
"...other than that, how was the play Mrs Lincoln?"
The first 6 or 7 years the spring practices were low impact - and it showed up every September. Now, there is more contact during practices- and it resulted in 2 straight undefeated Septembers but with higher injuries both years. Cooper and several others were injured during practice. You can’t have it both ways.
