I agree. Seems the reward of a potential sack could be negated by him beating us with his legs and/or a then wide open WR.
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One question I've had for the coaches/ recruiting gurus out there... Moberly appears to my layman eyes to be similar is skillset to Avery Johnson.
Which means ISU's defense has likely gotten some decent looks against a player who can replicate (not necessarily duplicate) KState's "best" player.
Advantage ISU, no? Or am I way off base and a scout team's "look" does not matter that much at this level, or the skillsets aren't that similar?
Which means ISU's defense has likely gotten some decent looks against a player who can replicate (not necessarily duplicate) KState's "best" player.
Advantage ISU, no? Or am I way off base and a scout team's "look" does not matter that much at this level, or the skillsets aren't that similar?
Anything a scout team can do to replicate the opponent is crucial at like any level.
It's hard to game plan blind. I would entertain the challenge but not the first game of the year. Hard to know what our strengths are without seeing them play.
Something generic would be what Matt typically does. Nothing flashy, limit penalties, don't turn the ball over and play solid defense. Personnel wise I think we have a better chance of bullying them than finessing them simply based on our known strengths in returning players. They have a strong front 7 on defense however so it might be better to try to press the field vertically. Without knowing the receiver situation is hard to go all in on that. Run the ball and gash them off the play action.
Defensively we should just do what we do but I also think we need to test their QB early. If you can get him rattled he has shown to implode pretty quickly. I'm not as worried about dline as some as Rasheed is our most consistent coach over Matt's tenure IMO. They are always at least able to hold their weight.
Something generic would be what Matt typically does. Nothing flashy, limit penalties, don't turn the ball over and play solid defense. Personnel wise I think we have a better chance of bullying them than finessing them simply based on our known strengths in returning players. They have a strong front 7 on defense however so it might be better to try to press the field vertically. Without knowing the receiver situation is hard to go all in on that. Run the ball and gash them off the play action.
Defensively we should just do what we do but I also think we need to test their QB early. If you can get him rattled he has shown to implode pretty quickly. I'm not as worried about dline as some as Rasheed is our most consistent coach over Matt's tenure IMO. They are always at least able to hold their weight.
Front runner meaning that they like to play with a lead because their offense is all about ball control, long methodical drives, and time of possession (much like Iowa). Get them down 2 scores and their offense is not very well equipped to come from behind.
Get them down 2 scores and they can't run their normal offense, much moreso than any other opponent we play except maybe Iowa. They don't have a quick strike come from behind offense.
I'll play the 'what happened before this year makes it so' game.
In last year's game they had a 1 play, 65 yard TD drive and 5 play, 60 yard drive over 2:15.
So I guess by that, they can get down the field efficirntly if they need to.
All teams have explosive plays. KState specializes in winning the time of possession. They want to run the ball, control the clock, limit the other team's possessions. They are not an air raid offense. They are the Big 12's version of Iowa.
Impossible to know what our actual strengths and their actual weaknesses will be. But probably safe to assume our playbook will look similar to last year. I really liked the play-action roll-right dump-off to the lead blocker. This has been money for a long time. Its a pretty safe and reliable way to pick up 7-12 yards and soften the LBs. I also like the skinny slant off the RPO that we have hit for several huge plays for at least the last 4 years. And I like trying to hit Brahmer up the seam a few times a quarter. Would like to see us involve the RBs in a screen or wheel route once in awhile.
Generally speaking, throws into the middle, runs off tackle, and only one cut. Be direct, give the defense less time to react and recover.
On D I think we are again able to play the players that best fit our preferred (and wildly effective) scheme rather than try to adjust the scheme to minimize the inexperience and holes we had at the end of last year. The professor will cook. They might score early, and might break another big one or two, but I will be fairly stunned if they get to 21.
Generally speaking, throws into the middle, runs off tackle, and only one cut. Be direct, give the defense less time to react and recover.
On D I think we are again able to play the players that best fit our preferred (and wildly effective) scheme rather than try to adjust the scheme to minimize the inexperience and holes we had at the end of last year. The professor will cook. They might score early, and might break another big one or two, but I will be fairly stunned if they get to 21.
To quote the interview given by a captain of my high school football team, who gave maybe the most insightful answer to the reporter for the local newspaper - “I think we will have to run and pass to be successful.”
It's clear it'll likely be a super close game (and history would say one or two errors by someone likely could be a tipping point). I just feel historically K-State ALWAYS seems to have a KR for a td or punt return (not just against us, but in general). That's probably my fear (remember the windy game a few years back where we essentially spotted them 7 points?....granted, we played bad that day, but you know).
I think that's why last year i was SOOOO pumped when the first play was a miscue pitch...but they are pesky. Even the snow game...my memory is we throttled them...but it was actually a close game.
Here's to us getting a couple to bounce our way/ill timed penalities for them. While i think the Mike Rose strip/int/TD deal and comeback may have "exercised" some of the demons from the Lazard end of game BS...and the fact we've won 4/5, overally they are just pesky and hope we can come out and control them.
I think that's why last year i was SOOOO pumped when the first play was a miscue pitch...but they are pesky. Even the snow game...my memory is we throttled them...but it was actually a close game.
Here's to us getting a couple to bounce our way/ill timed penalities for them. While i think the Mike Rose strip/int/TD deal and comeback may have "exercised" some of the demons from the Lazard end of game BS...and the fact we've won 4/5, overally they are just pesky and hope we can come out and control them.
Which I have never figured out why that is what we do. The best way to handle a QB is to get him off his spot, and not allow him to get into the flow of the game and start to get confidence. It's why many coaches want their QB to get some easy throws early in the game, so he starts feeling good about his game that day.
Much rather have their QB thinking from the first play of the game, they are coming after me, and I have to figure out where and get the ball out. That means, the QB has to make a read and a play or take a sack. Way to often we allow him to sit in the pocket, scan the field, and then throw to the open guy. I want a QB running for his life the entire night, much like the Eagles did to Mahomes in the SB.
I think our defense is going to be much better than last year. K-state will have a dynamic offense though. I see us much to fans dismay , playing a conservative game on O & D. Dropping 8 alot on D to keep Avery contained & running the ball alot on O to play ball control.
demoncore1031
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I think K-State will move the ball and put up some points early but our D will adjust and shut them down in the 2nd half. Pretty sure our offense will be alright as long as we can get the running game going.
ISU - 27
KSU - 24
ISU - 27
KSU - 24
Many won't want to hear this but it may be an overall talent/depth issue.
If you show blitz early and often and they're able to adjust and you don't have the (overall, I know ISU has an upgrade in several areas but they're not tOSU etc) personal to make up for it as the game wears on.
Or it might be just seeing what they are doing early vs. film and the adjustments come from that.
