Ideas for avoiding technicals

[Cycsk]

A recent article I read indicated that officials are right about 94% of the time. That would seem to indicate they are better at their jobs than coaches or players.

Depends what you are counting. If "dribbles," then players probably get more than 94% done right. If "shots," then not.

As for refs, I assume you are counting actual "calls" they make, not "non-calls" (which I would consider worthy of measuring if we are really serious about evaluating refs). Tonight, I may try to keep count of how many actual calls they make in comparison with ones where I would be yelling at them for making the wrong call (or chuckling that we got away with one).

If I get to 19 without a bad call, then I will know to get ready.

 

[Sigmapolis]

This ain't nothin' but good, ole fashioned racism.

 

[Cycsk]

I saw Lard go up to the ref after the timeout. I suspect that he asked what he did wrong. Based on what Prohm said after the game, he probably didn't get much of an answer. At the time, I was hoping he was telling the ref that he is an emotional player, but that he will try not to do anything else that even looks like taunting. Try to get the benefit of the doubt back in his favor.

Rux, does stuff like that even help at all with refs?

 

[Cydwinder]

A recent article I read indicated that officials are right about 94% of the time. That would seem to indicate they are better at their jobs than coaches or players.

To be fair, most calls are pretty easy. Shot clock violations, out on a certain player, etc. I would doubt they are much better than 50/50 on close plays. I’m not saying I’d be better because it’s a tough job, but there are some refs who aren’t very good in tight calls

 

[kingcy]

Isnt a 360 dunk more bad sportsmanship than yelling getting excited after you score?

 

[SayMyName]

Bamba's been shoutin' and showboatin' all night, no calls.

 

[CyStalker]

Bamba's been shoutin' and showboatin' all night, no calls.

I agree. I thought after his huge dunk......why no T?

I personally do not think that it was technical worthy by any means, just a guy super jacked after a huge dunk. What that said, if Cam gets a T, then that should too.

I don't like it. it's too subjective and puts a bit too much power in the refs hands to influence a game.

 

[ruxCYtable]

I saw Lard go up to the ref after the timeout. I suspect that he asked what he did wrong. Based on what Prohm said after the game, he probably didn't get much of an answer. At the time, I was hoping he was telling the ref that he is an emotional player, but that he will try not to do anything else that even looks like taunting. Try to get the benefit of the doubt back in his favor.

Rux, does stuff like that even help at all with refs?

Sure, unless the ref is a total douche. Assuming he's not, he's thinking to himself,"OK, this is not a bad dude," and he might cut him a break next time.

What do I know? I'm just a lowly high school ref. I like kids and I like to be approachable. I gave my first T this year in about three years and, coincidentally it was for taunting.

 

[isu2014]

Here's the video of Cam's T in the Texas Tech game. When you watch it you can hear the whistle at the end of the clip which was the official giving Cam the T. He literally yells. At no one. I don't care your angle on the court, you can easily tell he's not yelling at anyone...he's not even really close to anyone. There should be no excuses for whistles like this. I prefer not to watch sports robots with no emotion.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Here's the video of Cam's T in the Texas Tech game. When you watch it you can hear the whistle at the end of the clip which was the official giving Cam the T. He literally yells. At no one. I don't care your angle on the court, you can easily tell he's not yelling at anyone...he's not even really close to anyone. There should be no excuses for whistles like this. I prefer not to watch sports robots with no emotion.

Don't see anything here that would warrant a tech in my book. Of course, we don't know if any magic words were said.

 

[isu2014]

Don't see anything here that would warrant a tech in my book. Of course, we don't know if any magic words were said.

You can literally see him yelling. I'm 99% sure he can't also be saying swear words.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Don't see anything here that would warrant a tech in my book. Of course, we don't know if any magic words were said.

Then it's a bad tech.

 

[isu2014]

Here's the other T. You can clearly see (and hear) exactly what he says. I know that he probably got it for yelling in a crowd, but watch the whole thing and listen to the announcer. I agree with him 1000%. That shouldn't warrant a technical, and I've watched people yell that all the time in a crowd of opponents and the officials don't bat an eye. It pisses me off, and I'm glad the announcer had the cojones to say something about it.

 

[CY88CE11]

Here's the other T. You can clearly see (and hear) exactly what he says. I know that he probably got it for yelling in a crowd, but watch the whole thing and listen to the announcer. I agree with him 1000%. That shouldn't warrant a technical, and I've watched people yell that all the time in a crowd of opponents and the officials don't bat an eye. It pisses me off, and I'm glad the announcer had the cojones to say something about it.

You can see the ref mouth what looks like "taunting" when Cam asks him. But it just makes Cam more confused. Taunting your own team or what?

 

[Cycsk]

I thought it was pretty clear that he yelled "And one" while flexing and looking right at the guy who fouled him. That is taunting. Whether or not I think it should be called a technical foul is irrelevant. Seems like that is a call the NCAA wants the refs to be making.

 

[SayMyName]

Here's the video of Cam's T in the Texas Tech game. When you watch it you can hear the whistle at the end of the clip which was the official giving Cam the T. He literally yells. At no one. I don't care your angle on the court, you can easily tell he's not yelling at anyone...he's not even really close to anyone. There should be no excuses for whistles like this. I prefer not to watch sports robots with no emotion.

Yeah, this is total bush league officiating right here - at home, no less. Let the kid play.

 

[bozclone]

Those Ts are bull.

 

[Cardinal2001]

I personally do not think that it was technical worthy by any means, just a guy super jacked after a huge dunk. What that said, if Cam gets a T, then that should too.

This is it. I have no problem with the T's, if they are called the same way. Obviously they are not. Bamba is evidence of it not being called the same.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Sure, unless the ref is a total douche. Assuming he's not, he's thinking to himself,"OK, this is not a bad dude," and he might cut him a break next time.

What do I know? I'm just a lowly high school ref. I like kids and I like to be approachable. I gave my first T this year in about three years and, coincidentally it was for taunting.

Yeah. Or at least approach Cam on the next timeout, tell him that was on the line and to tone it down/this is your warning. Instead of just doing it.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Yeah. Or at least approach Cam on the next timeout, tell him that was on the line and to tone it down/this is your warning. Instead of just doing it.

No question. We call that "preventive officiating," and it needs to be used more often.