Hurricane Harvey

An update on those elderly women pictured sitting waste deep in water - they are all safe, and in a dry place.
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It's the fourth largest city. Harvey wasn't a hurricane until Thursday afternoon. I don't know how confident the models were by Wednesday, but I just can't see how they could have possibly gotten people out by Friday afternoon. Especially when you add in the coastal people who were told to get out.
The weather channel was calling for 30 to 40 inches of rain before it strengthened to cat 4 hurricane. Why not evacuate flooded areas from previous storms until waiting to spend resources to pull people off roofs or out of nursing homes.
 
KC, is there supposed to be water anywhere in that video during normal times?
If you look at the google map in my post above (#162), he is standing by the railing of 99 (the "Grand Pkwy". The entrance to the nature center in the center of the map is off to the left in the video. If I have my bearings correctly, the map and video are flipped (ie, he's facing south with the camera). If you trace SW on Riley Fuzzell Rd on the map, it crosses Spring Creek (which also runs under 99). Pro tip - the creek is BROWN on the map, not blue. :) That would put Spring Creek to the top right in the video.
 
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The weather channel was calling for 30 to 40 inches of rain before it strengthened to cat 4 hurricane. Why not evacuate flooded areas from previous storms until waiting to spend resources to pull people off roofs or out of nursing homes.
Maybe they should have evacuated some of the higher risk areas but I've read that this way has probably saved people as otherwise people would have been stuck on these interstate that have flooded.
 
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Saw that JJ Watt raised somewhere between $500,000 and 1 million, including $100,000 of his own.

Always nice to hear pro athletes having some humility.
 
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The weather channel was calling for 30 to 40 inches of rain before it strengthened to cat 4 hurricane. Why not evacuate flooded areas from previous storms until waiting to spend resources to pull people off roofs or out of nursing homes.


How far out should they be willing to trust that forecast and order mass evacuations based on it? Houston got badly burned by Rita. they weren't sure which neighborhoods would be hit hardest. Couldn't simply send them to other neighborhoods that could also be at risk. And as someone else pointed out, the highway system in Houston is meant to become part of the water removal pathway - meaning they are meant to flood. Unless they could be sure they'd have people off the roads by the time the rains started, they were playing a dangerous game.

This is an easy situation to Monday morning quarterback when we can't see the consequences if the other options were chosen.
 
The weather channel was calling for 30 to 40 inches of rain before it strengthened to cat 4 hurricane. Why not evacuate flooded areas from previous storms until waiting to spend resources to pull people off roofs or out of nursing homes.

The last time Houston did a mass evacuation:
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Folks I used to work with down there said they stayed on the road for 16 hours or so moving slower than if you walked. People ahead would run out of gas or overheat and stall out.

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a mass evacuation would work if everyone bought into the plan. problem is people wouldn't buy into the plan.

"those in this area, get on the freeway by 8 AM and drive north 400 miles."
"those in that area, get on the freeway by 9 AM and drive north 350 miles."

etc...
 
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a mass evacuation would work if everyone bought into the plan. problem is people wouldn't buy into the plan.

"those in this area, get on the freeway by 8 AM and drive north 400 miles."
"those in that area, get on the freeway by 9 AM and drive north 350 miles."

etc...


why bother evacuating for an over-hyped storm that won't amount to much of anything?
 
a mass evacuation would work if everyone bought into the plan. problem is people wouldn't buy into the plan.

"those in this area, get on the freeway by 8 AM and drive north 400 miles."
"those in that area, get on the freeway by 9 AM and drive north 350 miles."

etc...

AND - if they had an accurate determination of the impact of 50 ******* INCHES OF RAIN!
AND - if they had enough time to evacuate 6 MILLION people.
AND - if they a place for 6M people to go
AND - if everyone had a car and means to evacuate.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have a plan - but second guessing the shelter in place order is stupid.
 
The weather channel was calling for 30 to 40 inches of rain before it strengthened to cat 4 hurricane. Why not evacuate flooded areas from previous storms until waiting to spend resources to pull people off roofs or out of nursing homes.

Here is the forecast from Monday. It is hard to see in this image but on Monday they were predicting 7-9 inches of rain up and down the coast.The window to organize and implement an evacuation plan was just too small. Even with the limited evacuations that they had, there were people saying that they spent 23 hours on the interstate to get from Houston to Austin - usually a 2.5 - 3 hour drive.


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