HS sports

[keepngoal]

With Dowling winning it’s 7th straight football title, and a few things I noticed as my boys do and will be competing for their HS (not football), this thought came up. Besides football, what HS sports matter IRT furthering your career of playing in college? You don’t need to play HS bb to be noticed or nationally seen, let alone evaluated. Same with golf, soccer, etc.

When kids can play / compete with / against better competition (typically better coaching and year round) in their club or travel teams, how relevant is HS sports really?

emotional attachment?

 

[BCClone]

With Dowling winning it’s 7th straight football title, and a few things I noticed as my boys do and will be competing for their HS (not football), this thought came up. Besides football, what HS sports matter IRT furthering your career of playing in college? You don’t need to play HS bb to be noticed or nationally seen, let alone evaluated. Same with golf, soccer, etc.

When kids can play / compete with / against better competition (typically better coaching and year round) in their club or travel teams, how relevant is HS sports really?

emotional attachment?

track?? Probably depends on area also, some areas that clubs are not readily available.

 

[jmb]

With Dowling winning it’s 7th straight football title, and a few things I noticed as my boys do and will be competing for their HS (not football), this thought came up. Besides football, what HS sports matter IRT furthering your career of playing in college? You don’t need to play HS bb to be noticed or nationally seen, let alone evaluated. Same with golf, soccer, etc.

When kids can play / compete with / against better competition (typically better coaching and year round) in their club or travel teams, how relevant is HS sports really?

emotional attachment?

Swimming for sure.

 

[Clonehomer]

With Dowling winning it’s 7th straight football title, and a few things I noticed as my boys do and will be competing for their HS (not football), this thought came up. Besides football, what HS sports matter IRT furthering your career of playing in college? You don’t need to play HS bb to be noticed or nationally seen, let alone evaluated. Same with golf, soccer, etc.

When kids can play / compete with / against better competition (typically better coaching and year round) in their club or travel teams, how relevant is HS sports really?

emotional attachment?

Are you suggesting that the only reason for HS sports is to get kids into college sports? To me, HS sports are completely separate than that. If a kid is an exceptional basketball player, then yes he should do AAU to get his name out there. But there are a lot of kids that just want to play basketball while they are young. I hate that we've gotten to the point that in order to play HS you pretty much have to devote your entire childhood to a sport.

 

[keepngoal]

Are you suggesting that the only reason for HS sports is to get kids into college sports? To me, HS sports are completely separate than that. If a kid is an exceptional basketball player, then yes he should do AAU to get his name out there. But there are a lot of kids that just want to play basketball while they are young. I hate that we've gotten to the point that in order to play HS you pretty much have to devote your entire childhood to a sport.

I understand that, ADs and coaches have a lot of influence on if a kid plays depending on the attendance. Districts say coaches must sign off and with ADs approval.

 

[dualthreat]

is the only reason to participate in high school sports to be recognized by colleges?

 

[Clonehomer]

I understand that, ADs and coaches have a lot of influence on if a kid plays depending on the attendance. Districts say coaches must sign off and with ADs approval.

If a HS coach is basing play time off of attendance, we're doing it wrong.

Or are you talking class attendance? Then I agree, missing class = missing games.

 

[BCClone]

Many coaches have put wins above anything else and have become some pretty bad roles models.

 

[madguy30]

Are you suggesting that the only reason for HS sports is to get kids into college sports? To me, HS sports are completely separate than that. If a kid is an exceptional basketball player, then yes he should do AAU to get his name out there. But there are a lot of kids that just want to play basketball while they are young. I hate that we've gotten to the point that in order to play HS you pretty much have to devote your entire childhood to a sport.

I think this is the mindset for a lot of people including parents.

Many don't understand the type of freak athleticism that it takes for something like D1 football or basketball.

 

[CloneFan65]

Are you suggesting that the only reason for HS sports is to get kids into college sports? To me, HS sports are completely separate than that. If a kid is an exceptional basketball player, then yes he should do AAU to get his name out there. But there are a lot of kids that just want to play basketball while they are young. I hate that we've gotten to the point that in order to play HS you pretty much have to devote your entire childhood to a sport.

I agree. Very few can play two sports in HS. My son played HS baseball and I saw kids try to play baseball and football. The football coach penalized them for missing Spring FB and the baseball coach penalized them for missing Fall baseball.

 

[Clonehomer]

I think this is the mindset for a lot of people including parents.

Many don't understand the type of freak athleticism that it takes for something like D1 football or basketball.

And that's unfortunate. Somewhere we've lost our way and kids can't seem to just go play for the fun of it. And it's not the fault of the kids.

 

[madguy30]

And that's unfortunate. Somewhere we've lost our way and kids can't seem to just go play for the fun of it. And it's not the fault of the kids.

No and it's trended that way for a long time. Even when I was playing 20-some years ago...there wasn't a lot of single sport athletes at a small rural high school but things were made into a bigger 'stage' by some coaches compared to what it really was--going out and playing some football with your buddies on a Friday night.

 

[jmb]

I understand that, ADs and coaches have a lot of influence on if a kid plays depending on the attendance. Districts say coaches must sign off and with ADs approval.

Generally speaking the only sport a kid really needs to play is high school football. Almost every other sport the quality of coaching and play is not in high school.

 

[jmb]

I think this is the mindset for a lot of people including parents.

Many don't understand the type of freak athleticism that it takes for something like D1 football or basketball.

There is far more than d1.

 

[Cy4Lifer]

I am a former coach and it is too bad to hear how some HS athletes are being “punished” for being in multiple sports. My fellow coaches and I always tried to work together to allow kids to compete in multiple activities when possible.

I guess our mindset was that sports in HS were there for kids to enjoy, not primarily to be college prep.

 

[BCClone]

I am a former coach and it is too bad to hear how some HS athletes are being “punished” for being in multiple sports. My fellow coaches and I always tried to work together to allow kids to compete in multiple activities when possible.

I guess our mindset was that sports in HS were there for kids to enjoy, not primarily to be college prep.

The punishment is occurring several times because too many coaches have made the sports about their wins and losses and their recognition. Fun is not a consideration, you want to enjoy time with your friends, you better not be on the field doing that in their opinion. My son loved football, was a D2/NAIA type player, coaches sucked the fun out of the sport for him.

 

[Drew0311]

My daughter plays soccer and is being recruited by division one schools. She has elected to not play high school sports because the coach is a **** and makes it not fun. I think high school sports are great. However the era of the coach being a jerk is no longer something that kids have to deal with.

 

[BigBake]

It is getting tougher, I can't speak to male sports but with girls bball/vball it's a major headache. My daughter loves both sports but there is a lot of overlap between club and HS. I do think the IGHSAU should mandate some practice restrictions. I would like to a see a 2 week break between the last week of your vball season and the start of bball practice.

Club vball starts with tryouts in Nov, practice starting in Dec and tourneys start up the first week of Jan. For a dual sport kid you're basically racing off to a tourney somewhere late on Friday after the Varsity bball game, racing back Sunday to try and make the HS practice on that afternoon.

I can honestly see why so many kids are sticking to one sport. I'm lucky my daughter loves both sports and I do everything I can to allow her to play.

Does she need to play club? No. But the college coaches are recruiting (from both sports) and watching club tourneys to find players. To the OP's original question, yeah, I could have her drop HS bball and vball and she could still be recruited to college if she wanted to.

 

[Cy4Lifer]

The punishment is occurring several times because too many coaches have made the sports about their wins and losses and their recognition. Fun is not a consideration, you want to enjoy time with your friends, you better not be on the field doing that in their opinion. My son loved football, was a D2/NAIA type player, coaches sucked the fun out of the sport for him.

Very sad to hear that about your son.

 

[BCClone]

Very sad to hear that about your son.

Long run his decision to not play college will be the best decision he has made to this point, just sad that trying to be a positive leader instead of tearing teammates down gets you insulted by the coaches.